Gas & Electricity

Scouse Blue said:
Just got my monthly bill for Oct.

Gas and electric at new rates = £195.72. Less £66 Gov support = £129.72

At the old rates and no Gov support, it would have been £144.91

Caveat is currently the support is only for 6 months and the central heating has not been on much due to the extremely mild weather.
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Mine is £149 less the £66 government payment for October. We haven't put the heating on at all yet.
I'm £550 in credit and my direct debit is now £159 a month. Hopefully this mild weather will last until May! :-)
 
My latest bill from Octopus shows how much gas & electric would be without the Government support.

Figures excl VAT are

GAS 14.05p per Kwh -- savings with the support 4.22p
ELEC 48.88p per Kwh -- savings with the support 17.00p

Hoping for more support after the 6 months runs out
 
Keep the Faith said:
My latest bill from Octopus shows how much gas & electric would be without the Government support.

Figures excl VAT are

GAS 14.05p per Kwh -- savings with the support 4.22p
ELEC 48.88p per Kwh -- savings with the support 17.00p

Hoping for more support after the 6 months runs out
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Let’s see where gas prices are by then too. Hopefully this is a short sharp spike.
 
One full month over of new price increases. Tonight my smart meter says combined total of £197-00 !! That's in a modest EOT, on the South coast, Central heating not gone on yet, So, minus the Government £66 payout We've spent £131-00 , and being told to pay £216-45 a month DD, which I don't really understand why? And we are almost £400-00 in credit!!
This coming week is meant to be v.wet down here so the washing will almost certainly go in the dryer or the heated airer, things might seem Rosie ATM,but I'm still really worried.
How's everyone else fareing?
 
Electric - £98

Gas - £25

We were away for 6 days though.

£66 rebate received.

I pay £164 pm and they didn’t put it up. I must be in credit after the summer.

Obviously mild weather has helped. I would imagine both the tumble dryer and heating will be on much more going forward.
 
ell said:
Im 600+ in credit yet they have still upped my direct debit yesterday
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EDF put our direct debit up 3 days before a payment was due. I rang them up and told them to never put my direct debit up again without consulting me first or I would get the ombudsman involved. No problems since
 
dooie68 said:
One full month over of new price increases. Tonight my smart meter says combined total of £197-00 !! That's in a modest EOT, on the South coast, Central heating not gone on yet, So, minus the Government £66 payout We've spent £131-00 , and being told to pay £216-45 a month DD, which I don't really understand why? And we are almost £400-00 in credit!!
This coming week is meant to be v.wet down here so the washing will almost certainly go in the dryer or the heated airer, things might seem Rosie ATM,but I'm still really worried.
How's everyone else fareing?
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The £400 "in credit" is probably to be used to pay your quarterly bill since you pay in arrears. The new monthly DD suggestion will be based on your previous usage and based on Winter coming up (although it doesn't feel like it right now).
 
Centurions said:
The £400 "in credit" is probably to be used to pay your quarterly bill since you pay in arrears. The new monthly DD suggestion will be based on your previous usage and based on Winter coming up (although it doesn't feel like it right now).
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Not sure the "Arrears" bit is correct? I know for Bulb we pay in advance though that is monthly DD rather than quarterly
 
I'm a bit concerned by people who keep quoting their bills minus the government payout. In 5 months time I think there's sod all chance of this present lot continuing it, it feels like you're getting sucked into a false sense of security and will be surprised when your bill "jumps" by £66 a month again.

That's presuming that they don't cancel it before then of course, they've done so many U turns that I wouldn't put it past them as a "necessary austerity measure".
 
flook said:
Not sure the "Arrears" bit is correct? I know for Bulb we pay in advance though that is monthly DD rather than quarterly
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Although you pay monthly, it's held on your account as a credit (you could ask for it all to be paid back). The actual bill is paid quarterly usually and is taken off the credit on the account. If the account is in debit or credit by a large amount then that's when you can find your DD changed (although they have to balance it on the years usage).

Edit: or at least that's how I read it.
 
dooie68 said:
One full month over of new price increases. Tonight my smart meter says combined total of £197-00 !! That's in a modest EOT, on the South coast, Central heating not gone on yet, So, minus the Government £66 payout We've spent £131-00 , and being told to pay £216-45 a month DD, which I don't really understand why? And we are almost £400-00 in credit!!
This coming week is meant to be v.wet down here so the washing will almost certainly go in the dryer or the heated airer, things might seem Rosie ATM,but I'm still really worried.
How's everyone else fareing?
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BTW, why not just use clothes hangers and allow them to dry indoors after a good spin cycle?
 
Centurions said:
I'm a bit concerned by people who keep quoting their bills minus the government payout. In 5 months time I think there's sod all chance of this present lot continuing it, it feels like you're getting sucked into a false sense of security and will be surprised when your bill "jumps" by £66 a month again.

That's presuming that they don't cancel it before then of course, they've done so many U turns that I wouldn't put it past them as a "necessary austerity measure".
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Sunak will definitely not want to extend the help. He had no plan for support whilst he was Chancellor either. I'm not trying to doom monger but he really was tight whilst Chancellor and he has mentioned "difficult decisions" so far whilst being PM.
 
As I posted long ago I have used the govt top up to build up credit and also increased my payments as recommended by Octopus.
 
Not sure how to work my first month of new rates, Elec. reading =181 units @ 35.98 s/charge = 47.58 Gas reading = 7 units @ 10.34 s/charge = 27.22. Can anyone show the formula thanks in advance
 
Centurions said:
Although you pay monthly, it's held on your account as a credit (you could ask for it all to be paid back). The actual bill is paid quarterly usually and is taken off the credit on the account. If the account is in debit or credit by a large amount then that's when you can find your DD changed (although they have to balance it on the years usage).

Edit: or at least that's how I read it.
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Nope Bulb bill is paid monthly, balance adjusts each month depending on usage (in the good old days the credit used to climb each month). Definitely pay in advance too as, presumably after stalking me on this thread, they wrote to me today to tell me that very fact :)
 
city2 said:
Not sure how to work my first month of new rates, Elec. reading =181 units @ 35.98 s/charge = 47.58 Gas reading = 7 units @ 10.34 s/charge = 27.22. Can anyone show the formula thanks in advance
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Electricity

181 units x 0.3598= £63.68
31 x 0.4758= £14.87
Total £78.55

Gas
7 units = 7 x 1.0244 x 40 /3.6 = 79.52kWh
79.52 x 0.1034 = £8.22
31 x 0.2722 = £8.44
Total £16.66

Combined total £94.99
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Electricity

181 units x 0.3598= £63.68
31 x 0.4758= £14.87
Total £78.55

Gas
7 units = 7 x 1.0244 x 40 /3.6 = 79.52kWh
79.52 x 0.1034 = £8.22
31 x 0.2722 = £8.44
Total £16.66

Combined total £94.99
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Beat me to it. If you want a rough approximation for Cubic Metres of gas to KWh. 1 cubic metre is 10.55kWh.
 
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