Gas & Electricity

[pride in battle]

This is my take on this.
I'm 46 years old I've left school with no gcsesi was classed as thick because I'm dyslexic.
Which I didn't know till I went to college to do joinery.
Anyway I'm from a working class family .
I now have a really gòd job or I think it is as a site manager..and I think I even really good money.
Probably about a60k a year.
My misses earns about 25k a year so in total 85k.
Some people might think that's a lot some might think that's fuck all.
My point is I earn that we don't go mad we have a 3 bed semi etc etc.
But if these bills keep going up we are going to start to feel it.
Why is all the help for people on low income or people on the dole.
I've nothing against anyone who needs help and is genuinely out of work.
But I feel like I'm in the middle of don't need help cos I earn good money and oh fuck him.
I've work really hard to be where I am today but this is getting stupid 3k a year for gas nd electric and its only going to go up.
Will it ever go down again.
I bet not.
Night blues ctid

Mate nobody is going to feel sorry for a family earning 85 grand a year, are you taking the piss ???

 

[city2]

Ok so the gas prices are going through the roof, I was brought up in the 60,s with no heating as such apart a fire in the front room. We can all get through this together, heat the room and not the house, wrap up indoors with scarf and hat, gloves if needed and don’t give these fuckers your hard earned money oh and toughen up think how shit it was for our grand parents they just got on with it.

 

[Homar]

The increases in the price of gas, in particular, are caused almost entirely by the rise in the wholesale price rather than profiteering. I agree that the energy companies and the distribution network are inherently monopolistic and should therefore be nationalised (just like the water companies and the rail companies). However, if the government did this alone and passed all profits back to consumers as reduced prices, it’d have much less of an impact than most would imagine.

The sanctions against oil and gas producing countries are the single biggest cause of this crisis. It’s all well and good talking about energy security, but even if the government did enact policy (big if) then it would take years for any noticeable relief in prices. Western governments could lift sanctions on Iran and Venezuela tomorrow. That’d go some way to addressing supply shortages, although it might be severely limited if Saudi Arabia follows through on its threat to cut production. Iran and Venezuela combined produce about half as much gas as Russia.

The government could do what France are doing, but it’s really only deferring the problem until later. The French will pay one way or another, but I suppose they’ll at least not freeze this winter.

 

[blue for life]

Alright but do it in central London then and not satellite towns of greater Manchester ;-)

I wasn’t condoning it

 

[remember arthur mann]

People queueing at Manchester food banks Winter 2023.

 

[bluemcr]

Surely the government are going to step in and do something. Possibly when the new prime minister is announced.

 

[blue for life]

Surely the government are going to step in and do something. Possibly when the new prime minister is announced.

It will be half hearted at best

 

[west didsblue]

There’s something that puzzles me about electricity prices. My electricity supplier provides electricity from 100% renewable sources; they tell me every time I login to look at bills or give a meter reading. If that’s the case, why am I paying the rate for electricity that is tied to the cost of producing electricity from non renewables? We have had levies placed on our bills for years to pay for renewables and now we’ve got them, why are we still paying a price that is tied to non renewable sources?

It’s a result of how the market is set up where the unit price is set by the cost of the most expensive part of the energy mix. Seems mad to me that someone can’t come up with a way to reset how the market works to make it an average cost rather than the cost of the most expensive, but I suspect there’s a vested interest in not changing it too much because it would affect profits.

 

[Elbow beards]

Surely the government are going to step in and do something. Possibly when the new prime minister is announced.

I take it you've not seen who's running for P. M then. ;)

 

[55yr old teenager]

and when the rioters burn your house down, or smash your grandma senseless cos she happens to be in the wrong place, you will still condone the rioters I take it.

I was not condoning the rioting, was just saying it.may well get to that stage. You are interpreting my post wrongly.