Rascal
El Presidente
Mass then can mean 6 in 10, 7 in 15, 8 in 17, as they are the Mass, taking Mass as majority. The use of the word "mass" meaning large numbers gives a wrong impression. Would you describe the 137.862 (UK Census 2011) people from France living in the UK as mass? Are the 6.2 million people living in the UK who are non British "mass"? Are the 485,654 non British students studying in the UK "mass"? Does the PL have a mass immigration problem, are City a proponent of "mass" immigration?
I never said being concerned about immigration is racist, I am concerned about immigration, the problem I have is when people like myself counter the myths that are spouted around immigration, those spouting the myths then believe I am indicating they are racist. Which is nonsense and it is clouding the debate. People like that fucking clown from Patriotic Alternative who films at Dover, Farage with his crass Goebbelesque poster and the RW media like the Mail and Express do not help a sensible discussion, they raise hackles and encourage division. Of course the likes of Priti Patel exploit these divisions to employ more authoritarian immigration laws
Which is fair enough, they have become the largest in part to the declining population of Irish people in the UK , this is due to the aging of the Irish community. At one point 12.1% of people born in Eire lived in the UK.
Retaining tradition is not always great, it used to be tradition to send kids up chimneys and down coal mines. As a country develops many traditions fall by the wayside and are replaced by new traditions.
They are not like they were 1000 years ago, Yuval Noah Harari argues that biology shows that an incredibly small percentage survives, and at best improves things. This indicates progression is vital for there survival,
Asylum applications peaked at around 85,000 P/A in 2002, it now stands at 24,000 P/A, people who came here from the EU were not immigrants, they were exercising freedom of movement rights. This is one of the most misunderstood and badly interpreted parts of the Immigration debate. Immigrants can not be immigrants if they are moving freely. Otherwise we would have mass immigration into London from Scotland, from Belfast into Liverpool etc etc.
About 70% of the population increase between the 2001 and 2011 censuses was due to immigration. 7.5 million people (11.9% of the population at the time) were born overseas, although the census gives no indication of their immigration status or intended length of stay. As we around 500,000 students per year studying in the UK ( vital for our university funding) that leaves a shortfall 2.5 million. That is 250,000 per year, take away the 85,000 asylum seekers and the figure is 165,000 per year. Take away the shit players United buy and that lowers it further :)
Provisional figures show that in 2013, 526,000 people arrived to live in the UK whilst 314,000 left, meaning that net inward migration was 212,000. The number of people immigrating to the UK increased between 2012 and 2013 by 28,000, whereas the number emigrating fell by 7,000.
I reiterate, i do not think wanting to limit immigration is racist, but I do think calling immigrants cockroaches is. I also think there needs to be a distinction made between illegal immigrant and asylum seeker and the Govt. rather than pandering to the RW extremists should set an example. Until we have a sensible debate where facts matter and myths are dispelled it suits extremists and it suits racists, and racists love nothing more than being accused of being racists, in some warped way it justifies there own existence and in some weird way allows themselves to portray themselves as patriots.