General Election - December 12th, 2019

[r.soleofsalford]

How about his party members who could remove him at any time and offer a leadership challenge?

So do you think this is ever going to happen with the majority he holds.

Again the question, Do you trust him.

 

[Don Karleone]

How fucking depressing.

 

[argyle]

We do one once a month where I work n’all. The demand for it is ever growing too.

Terrible isn't it.

That's why i don't understand those gloating over a Boris win. This stuff, homelessness, a&e times, crime etc won't get better.

 

[argyle]

How fucking depressing.

Yep. This is what the conservatives have become. People saying I'm being hyperbolic that it appealed to the far right nationalists.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

If the trees voted for the axe, you'd respect that it was their decision, correct?

Or would you force them to vote how you think they should vote?

The Trees: Rush.
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw

 

[Bluemanc100]

Compare that to John Major in 1997 (from about 1:30)

Are you saying that Corbyn is doing the right thing or showing how it should be done?

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

“The trees kept voting for the axe as because the axe was made of wood, the axe convinced the trees he was one of them”

give over trying to be clever James O’Brien said this on radio. At least credit it to who said it.

 

[Semper aggressus]

Disappointed but not surprised. I didn't like Corbyn but I hate leaving the EU even more. I just don't understand how leaving will benefit anyone. Adopting a purely neutral stance here to learn more, then maybe I'll accept Brexit more, but what positives will leaving have?

As I see it:

It's bad for science as there'll be fewer smart scientists coming to work here from EU countries, plus we'll lose a lot of the EU science funding. As a country we paid in a lot less than we got back.

It's bad for the environment because we lose a lot of EU habitat and conservation directives that protected wildlife.

It's bad for business as it'll make import and export to Europe harder and more expensive.

We may end up having to import US meat which has far less stringent animal welfare and chemical content rules.

Away from Brexit, the Tories haven't pledged strong enough climate change targets or to plant enough trees.

However, I think they'll be better (of an admittedly terrible bunch) for defence. Corbyn's admission that he would "never use" our nuclear deterrent negated its existence. It's threat has kept peace in Western Europe for over 70 years.

So, what are the positives of Brexit? Who benefits?

 

[Blue Hefner]

well done to the silent majority again, call me Dave underestimated the voters when he gave us the referendum and corbyn and swinson both jumped on the wrong horse when they tried to overturn the result, they just didnt have a clue what the majority wanted

What do the majority want? A Norway style Brexit or a ‘clean break’? I ask because we’ll be having these discussions in 6 months but the only difference this time is that Johnson can do what he wants - which may be a good* think

*when I say good, I don’t mean better than staying in. I mean better than the no-deal, set fire to 40yrs worth of agreements option

 

[Blue Hefner]

give over trying to be clever James O’Brien said this on radio. At least credit it to who said it.

I know he did, but it wasn’t his quote. I though the speech marks clearly indicated it wasn’t my own work - I’ll provide a firm source next time