General Election - December 12th, 2019

[aguero93:20]

Motion not passed

Hehe think a few weren't aware of the 2/3rds of all MPs requirements judging by the shocked silence when that one was read out.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Johnson in responding looks broken.........................in office but not in power and he knows it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Nigel Evans - Johnson's paper thin human shield - I assume he is looking for a plum post in the next Tory Leaders shadow cabinet.

 

[The perfect fumble]

It was always going to end this way. There is no great new deal(not least because no one is negotiating) and Parliament was never going to allow no-deal. He must have known that, surely?

The only way out on the 31st October is to being back a tarted-up WA

He has down exactly what May did, hitches his wagon to the extremist horse and fucked everyone else off

I agree with much of this, but the 31st October isn't happening.

The difference between May and Johnson is more tactical than substantial, both have done everything they can to exclude Parliament. May's government negotiated a deal keeping the House at arms length and ran down the clock hoping it would force Parliament to pass it. Truth is she never had a chance after the 2017 election, that election was supposed to deliver her a mandate, it didn't and she was finished after that.

Johnson has tried a different tactic, playing chicken with the EU using hard Brexit as leverage to get what he wants, while simultaneously attempting to sabotage the Parliamentary time table to prevent the House from removing that leverage. Well the House has removed that leverage, so he's attempting to go over their heads to the electorate in the hope they'll give him what they denied May, but the House has wised up, they'll only give him what he wants if he gives them what they want.

But if the House forces him to seek an extension and he refuses! What then?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I agree with much of this, but the 31st October isn't happening.

The difference between May and Johnson is more tactical than substantial, both have done everything they can to exclude Parliament. May's government negotiated a deal keeping the House at arms length and ran down the clock hoping it would force Parliament to pass it. Truth is she never had a chance after the 2017 election, that election was supposed to deliver her a mandate, it didn't and she was finished after that.

Johnson has tried a different tactic, playing chicken with the EU using hard Brexit as leverage to get what he wants, while simultaneously attempting to sabotage the Parliamentary time table to prevent the House from removing that leverage. Well the House has removed that leverage, so he's attempting to go over their heads to the electorate in the hope they'll give him what they denied May, but the House has wised up, they'll only give him what he wants if he gives them what they want.

But if the House forces him to seek an extension and he refuses! What then?

He breaks the law. What are the sanctions then?

 

[Fred_Quimby]

It’s at a time like this that you realise what a complete f..k up it was to have a GE in 2017. May had the working majority she needed but threw it away.

 

[The perfect fumble]

He breaks the law. What are the sanctions then?

I'm assuming a no confidence vote and we're back in interim government land.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

I'm assuming a no confidence vote and we're back in interim government land.

Recon so. Unless the Lords filibusters the no-deal bill. Then what? We leave without a deal.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Ha ha me? You are the one who thinks that an MP with no printer is somehow unworthy whilst highlighting she pays her husband to be on her staff ... you do know what an MP's staff does?

Trump and Boris lie and it doesn’t matter.

Phillips says something he can’t see being true and it matters.

Oh and Greta too. Really sinister individual, unlike Boris, Nigel and Donald.

 

[Damocles]

He breaks the law. What are the sanctions then?

Some brow furrowing and perhaps even a failed legal challenge