General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
Haha I am sitting in Edinburgh right now amigo.
Last time I was there was 2009 and that is exactly what I thought.

No I jest.
I am not sure what the issue is on chlorinated chicken, the more worrying thing for me is the fact they say they would change the rhetoric about it. And even more worryingly is that you are saying that is a good thing. Why would you trust big companies changing the rhetoric to sell their products?

Strikes me like the tobacco companies that said smoking doesn’t cause cancer. Were you supportive of that?

Another worrying part is they want to scrap the health safety labels. Do you agree with that? And if so, why?
This would be the same US which became the first country in the world to introduce those warnings on cigarette packages in 1966? The "Surgeon General's Warning"?
 
The narrative around chlorinated chicken certainly does need to be changed.

People still think you'd be ingesting harmful chemicals, when nothing could be further from the truth. For example;

"In 2005 the European Food Safety Authority said that "exposure to chlorite residues arising from treated poultry carcasses would be of no safety concern". Chlorine-rinsed bagged salads are common in the UK and other countries in the EU."

The issue is about the standards which required the chlorine wash, but it's common practice in the US even if the standards are exceptionally high. I'd sooner trust and have fewer health concerns about US chlorinated chicken than the stuff sold on the UK high street.

Why would you sooner trust their standards over ours?

I am sure, not 100% confident, that our standard are regarded as better than theirs.
 
This would be the same US which became the first country in the world to introduce those warnings on cigarette packages in 1966? The "Surgeon General's Warning"?

And then changed the debate to taking away your freedom by not ‘allowing’ you to smoke

Come on mate. You can’t say that these companies are to be trusted?
 
Why would you sooner trust their standards over ours?

I am sure, not 100% confident, that our standard are regarded as better than theirs.
What makes an American different to a Briton or a European?

You're not 100% confident, fine, but i'm not 100% fearful either. I don't distrust American standards anymore than I "trust" the EU's.
 
they are and we will continue to control our own standards.
No we'd give ours up alongside the sale of the NHS of course.

National Heallh Service, come on ladies and gents, get it while it's hot. NHS England and Wales for a fiver and for just six pounds we'll throw in Scotland as well. Not Scotland's NHS, you can have Scotland.
 
What makes an American different to a Briton or a European?

You're not 100% confident, fine, but i'm not 100% fearful either. I don't distrust American standards anymore than I "trust" the EU's.

But you said you would trust them over ours, all I am wondering is why?
 
And then changed the debate to taking away your freedom by not ‘allowing’ you to smoke

Come on mate. You can’t say that these companies are to be trusted?
I get it, you don't trust companies.

At the end of the day I have a choice to accept the product or reject it. If standards are not up to scratch, companies will need to adapt to meet them, or go out of business. That's the same everywhere.

No Government agent is going to forcefeed poison down your throat at the behest of the 'companies'.
 
But you said you would trust them over ours, all I am wondering is why?
I never said anything like that.

I said i'm indifferent and don't believe the standards to be any different to our own.

If you mean the high street comment, have you had takeaway chicken? Some of the food safety standards there are regularly broken, yet people still eat in these establishments. Why fear US chicken but gladly eat that muck?
 

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