General Election June 8th

[cibaman]

You may be right. But if people vote tactically they will be in trouble.

Offsetting that, in many of the constituencies where they have a small majority UKIP did well in 2015.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Why?
My stepson lived for 18 months unemployed, his dole was £75pw and his rent and council tax were paid for.
Now I know this isn't a fortune, but £20 of that went on heat and power and the rest fed and basically clothed him.
Why did he need a foodbank?
If you have children, benefits are far higher, you can check the rates on Yougov.
I understand interim periods between claims can put someone without funds, so a foodbank may be a boon then,
but nobody needs to 'Rely' on them, even in these straightened circumstances the authorities offer emergency funds.

One of the issues, is for those that are IN work and do NOT have their rent paid. Low paid job, having to pay rent as well as getting to work and back again etc is a drain

 

[cibaman]

It's weird how the BBC is viewed depending on your political slant. I see the BBC as an arm of the liberal left and as anti conservative as you can get.

Soft left, not Corbyn left.

I think the BBC does try to be impartial, but the presenters are not particularly good at controlling their body language. Its quite clear who they support whether its a general election, brexit or Trump. During the last election campaign Chuka Umunna was interviewed on breakfast telly. It wasn't a particularly searching interview but those on breakfast telly rarely are, they're not like Newsnight or the Daily Politics. It was fair enough. But at the end the presenter finished by saying "Thanks Chuka, a pleasure as always". Never in a million years would they use that language to a Tory. But since Corbyn took over there's been a definite cooling down in their attitude to Labour.

 

[JULES]

It's weird how the BBC is viewed depending on your political slant. I see the BBC as an arm of the liberal left and as anti conservative as you can get.

it always was, is now and will continue to be so

 

[Len Rum]

It's a Brexit election. We had a referendum already and since then the Conservative party has moved to be fully Brexit. Their vote share will not drop and when you convert that to MPs it will increase. Of the remainers, they have no where to go but Lib Dem. Hence their increase in the polls. Labour Brexiters will either not vote or move to Conservative (see wales and possibly Scotland ;-)) UKipers will move to Tory except those who would rather die than vote Tory (see this thread) so even if all the remainers voted tactically, there aren't enough constituencies where it would make a difference for it to be anything other than a futile gesture.

What do you mean by "fully Brexit" mate?
Just curious as on the Article 50 thread you omitted to clarify what you meant by hard Brexit.
Yours, in anticipation.

 

[Len Rum]

Why?
My stepson lived for 18 months unemployed, his dole was £75pw and his rent and council tax were paid for.
Now I know this isn't a fortune, but £20 of that went on heat and power and the rest fed and basically clothed him.
Why did he need a foodbank?
If you have children, benefits are far higher, you can check the rates on Yougov.
I understand interim periods between claims can put someone without funds, so a foodbank may be a boon then,
but nobody needs to 'Rely' on them, even in these straightened circumstances the authorities offer emergency funds.

The workhouse, the poor law, the treadmill. Are they still in full vigour Ancient?

 

[BlueHammer85]

left and right both claims the BBC is bias against there political leanings, that's proof enough to me that its pretty impartial

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

What do you mean by "fully Brexit" mate?
Just curious as on the Article 50 thread you omitted to clarify what you meant by hard Brexit.
Yours, in anticipation.

Leaving the EU is what Brexit means surely? And the ball is firmly in the EU's court considering it means leaving the single market as pointed out by Cameron Osborne Clegg and co before the referendum. Now if there's a deal to be done where we gain access to the single market whilst leaving the mechanism of the EU then I suggest that is what the negotiations will entail.

Staying in the single market with unfettered access for EU migrants and remaining in the customs union isn't Brexit it's the status quo. There is only one Brexit and that will be determined by how stubborn the EU will be.

 

[somapop]

Wonder which way Hacker the dog leans?
I'll vote whatever he votes.
It does seem that which 'side' people vote on the BBC get accused of bias, although I'm sure some of their political commentators are known for who they vote (Nick Robinson for example).

 

[Len Rum]

Sir Keir Starmer on the BBC not answering a simple question on immigration and highlighting the confusion within the Labour party on policy. Obfuscation and whataboutery designed to confuse the electorate but they'll see through it.

Obfuscation and "whataboutery" are not confined to Labour mate, the Tories are the masters of it as you well know.
As for Starmer I was wondering if after Labour's defeat he could become the next Leader, or if Labour stitch up the election rules, the transition leader of a new center left party until "cometh the hour cometh THE man" arrives to save us all from the Tories.