bluethrunthru
Well-Known Member
Better than labours?
which one ? The social care proposals? Or alleged pissing on your voters?
Better than labours?
which one ? The social care proposals? Or alleged pissing on your voters?
I get what you're saying and to the majority I agree.Odd that you blame that outcome on Labour.
If the Tory manifesto is distasteful and Labour under Corbyn is unthinkable as we are not a two party election system people have plenty of other parties to vote for and consolidated tactical voting could avert a massive Tory majority. Even large volumes of votes for other parties that doesn't necessarily involve huge swings in a majority could be effective. We are only in this situation with May and an election because Call Me Dave and his advisers fucking shat themselves at the number of UKIP voters and committed to a needless referendum and UKIP didn't win a fucking seat.
The outcome is still in the hands of the voter. Sadly too few of them care to make the effort
The first one naughty boy
I get what you're saying and to the majority I agree.
However, the question I can't reconcile an answer to in my mind is.
Do I trust Corbyn given his past allegiances? His Trade Union sponsorships? I think he most definitely yesterday's politician. Then do I want Diane Abbott running the Home Office and in charge of the Police Force? That alone us a big enough no to ensure I won't be voting Labour and I know I am not alone in thinking this.
I don't fear for myself with Labour (current players) but I do fear for the country. What's your view on Corbyns support for the IRA and associating with Middle East terror groups and terrorist leaders? Thus is a genuine question and for me automatically rules him out if leading this country.There's the conundrum. Do you fear the theoretical risk that Labour in power as a party ( it won't just be all run by Corbyn and Abbott ) more than you fear the certainty of an attack on your wealth and that of your elderly parents posed by the Tories. I wouldn't worry too much about Abbott at the Home Office - Theresa May was hardly a runaway success in the role and the Tory Party considered her PM material.
Agree depressing, I genuinely believe they will get over 450 seats.Depressing as it is, I'm going to predict the Tory majority being somewhere between 1983 (144) and 1997 (179), with 155 bring my best guess.
A whole new level from Tebbit, Parkinson, Osborne and Lilley?I wouldn't trust any politician but this woman May is on a whole new level for me.
Vile piece of shit who fits her party to a tee.