General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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bluethrunthru said:
so the Good Friday agreement and the talks with the IRA and their representatives shouldn't have happened?
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No I said it's a totally different thing. The Irish wanted more say in their own country, they were willing to sit down and talk it through. Isis want to destroy our way of life, they don't want to negotiate
 
As we're on a football forum I liken the Tories performance in the election to being 4-0 up at halftime, when the election was called, to drawing 4-4 now. We are entering injury time and they will probably sneak a win. It will however not particularly feel like a win if they dont get the big magority they expected.

I predict lots of fallout in the Tory party. And they'll be looking for a new manager by the autumn.
 
jay_mcfc said:
That is a disgusting post.

Corbyn has clearly said that when it comes to situations like Saturday night the police should do all that they can to protect as many lives as possible, including killing the suspects if necessary.

There is nothing wrong with Corbyn's stance. If you can catch the terrorists and bring them in - perfect. If you have to kill them, kill them. People trying to gain political points for his stance are idiots.
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I agree - there are a few on here doing that - the usual suspects mainly

But back to my post which is just a simple statement of the truth.

You do not like it because, IMO, - like so much propaganda put out by the obsessive left on this thread recently it exposes the reality behind Corbyn's views rather than the gloss being recently applied - for as you say: seeking to gain political points

With regard to Shoot to Kill he said as recently as November that:

"...........he is "not happy" with the shoot-to-kill policy in the event of a terror attack in the UK......"

The truth is a woman isn't it
 
Blue Mooner said:
I'd be interested to know how you think Corbyn voting against every piece of anti terror legislation for the last 30 years would have kept us safe?
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Avoidance of question duly noted.

We dont know, you are into the realms of what if.

Back in the real world we are were we are and even if you had voted yes for everyone we are not in a good place.
So on balance he has probably been right to try and stop us going down this route.

Looking at the terror bils.

Terrorism Act 2000

May: Absent from the final vote (there was no Second Reading)
Corbyn: Voted against it

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001

May: Voted for it at Second Reading; absent at Third Reading
Corbyn: Voted against it

Fourteen-day detention

May: Voted against it
Corbyn: Voted against it

Control Orders

May: Voted against it
Corbyn: Voted against it

ID cards

May: Voted against it
Corbyn: Voted against it

Ninety-day detention

May: Voted against the 90-day aspect. She voted for it at the Third Reading after major changes
Corbyn: Voted against at every stage

Counter-terrorism Act 2008

May: Absent from the vote
Corbyn: Voted against it

Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act

May: Voted for it
Corbyn: Voted against it

Theresa May, as home secretary, introduced the new regime saying it would be more focused and targeted than control orders.

Justice and Security Act 2013

May: Voted for it at Second Reading; absent at Third Reading
Corbyn: Voted against it

The Investigatory Powers Act 2016
Referred to as the "snooper's charter" by critics, this legislation allowed for the bulk interception of communications.

May: Voted for it
Corbyn: Absent from the vote

Seems U turn Theresa was a naysayer too plenty of times.
 
"Trustees rejected the idea there was a "deliberate attempt to mislead audiences", but said the broadcast was "not duly accurate" because it presented "an answer Mr Corbyn had given to a question about 'shoot to kill' as though it were his answer to a question he had not in fact been asked"."

Context is a woman too.
 
mcfc1632 said:
I agree - there are a few on here doing that - the usual suspects mainly

But back to my post which is just a simple statement of the truth.

You do not like it because, IMO, - like so much propaganda put out by the obsessive left on this thread recently it exposes the reality behind Corbyn's views rather than the gloss being recently applied - for as you say: seeking to gain political points

With regard to Shoot to Kill he said as recently as November that:

"...........he is "not happy" with the shoot-to-kill policy in the event of a terror attack in the UK......"

The truth is a woman isn't it
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Yes it does, listen to what he's said today. You sound desperate. At least the point scoring from the left is with good reason, you're just lying to suit your agenda. Do you really think under a Corbyn Govt the police wouldn't have killed those three suspects or are you just trying to score points?

Edit: Oh and why the fuck should he be 'happy' to kill them? The Govt should be happy to bring these cunts in and get as much info out of them as possible. That should always be the first option.
 
All her arrogance is coming back to bite her on the arse, no matter the result thursday she should be gone.

this sums it up for me though.

 
KenTheLandlord said:
Avoidance of question duly noted.

We dont know, you are into the realms of what if.

Back in the real world we are were we are and even if you had voted yes for everyone we are not in a good place.
So on balance he has probably been right to try and stop us going down this route.

Looking at the terror bils.

Terrorism Act 2000

May: Absent from the final vote (there was no Second Reading)
Corbyn: Voted against it

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001

May: Voted for it at Second Reading; absent at Third Reading
Corbyn: Voted against it

Fourteen-day detention

May: Voted against it
Corbyn: Voted against it

Control Orders

May: Voted against it
Corbyn: Voted against it

ID cards

May: Voted against it
Corbyn: Voted against it

Ninety-day detention

May: Voted against the 90-day aspect. She voted for it at the Third Reading after major changes
Corbyn: Voted against at every stage

Counter-terrorism Act 2008

May: Absent from the vote
Corbyn: Voted against it

Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act

May: Voted for it
Corbyn: Voted against it

Theresa May, as home secretary, introduced the new regime saying it would be more focused and targeted than control orders.

Justice and Security Act 2013

May: Voted for it at Second Reading; absent at Third Reading
Corbyn: Voted against it

The Investigatory Powers Act 2016
Referred to as the "snooper's charter" by critics, this legislation allowed for the bulk interception of communications.

May: Voted for it
Corbyn: Absent from the vote

Seems U turn Theresa was a naysayer too plenty of times.
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Why is he voting against them all though ? Some ok, but all ?
 
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