General Election June 8th

[Gabriel]

Catchy slogans do have a tendency to stick in the mind. From the Police Federation in 2012.

 

[manctheknife]

Catchy slogans do have a tendency to stick in the mind. From the Police Federation in 2012.

Yeah, but they got it from Donna Summer & Barbra Streisand....

 

[stonerblue]

Yeah, but surely that never happened...

Oh hang on

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lice-officers-scaremongering-budget-cuts.html

 

[mcfc1632]

Yes it does, listen to what he's said today. You sound desperate. At least the point scoring from the left is with good reason, you're just lying to suit your agenda. Do you really think under a Corbyn Govt the police wouldn't have killed those three suspects or are you just trying to score points?

Edit: Oh and why the fuck should he be 'happy' to kill them? The Govt should be happy to bring these cunts in and get as much info out of them as possible. That should always be the first option.

Desperate - those exposing the reality of Corbyn LOL!!!!!

You are the one seeking - along with the other desperate ones here - to bury the old Corbyn and 're-brand' him.

Would that be because the real Corbyn would not be attractive to the majority of the UK public - would that be because the election is just a few days away and therefore you just want to suppress the reality of Corbyn for just a few days more??

We all saw him founder on his dealing with the drone strike on IS leaders - his now familiar avoidance and prevarication as he speaks about need to 'consider' all facts etc......

IS have claimed responsibility for Manchester - and now for London. Just what would most UK citizens want to happen if the US or UK forces had the opportunity to take their leaders out - I think that we all know that it would be a massive support for/of action - but what would Corbyn do????

We actually do not need to 'wonder' about the reality of what he would do - he was more clear on his view, - i.e. when not lying because he is in an election campaign - following the drone strike that took Jihadi John out - you know the guy that was delighting in having himself videoed cutting people's heads off.

Did he welcome the demise of that zealotry bastard or did he criticise the action???? Do you want to guess which one.

http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20151117/3566778/Jeremy-Corbyn-Criticizes-Shoot-to-Kill-Policy.htm

Anyway, as an observer only of the thread since the Manchester attack, I have seen the disgusting manner in which the obsessive lefties have been doing what I have just been accused off - using tragedy for political gain. I am just posting the truth of matters.

Also, having witnessed the postings over the last week or so, I know that I should not waste any effort in replying to any of those obsessive lefties that will not stint in any effort to deny the reality of Corbyn's stances simply for the political convenience of there being an election in a few days.

 

[bobmcfc]

Ok so I've looked into what he's opposed.



Corbyn's position on terror legislation
- Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Bill in 1984. It introduced police powers to arrest a person suspected of involvement in acts of terrorism connected to Northern Ireland. Looking back in 2011 he said: “It probably generated more support for those who wish to commit those acts than anything else, because it criminalised large numbers of people who had committed no criminal wrong.”

- Opposed the 1989 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Bill, which proscribed the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army.

- Voted against the 2000 Terrorism Bill, which introduced police powers to stop and search anyone in a designated area without having to show reasonable suspicion for doing so.


- Opposed the 2006 Terrorism Bill, which outlawed the glorification of terrorism, cracked down on jihadists attending terror training camps and prohibited the circulation of terrorist publications.

- Opposed the introduction of Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures (TPIMs) in 2011. The measures, which replaced control orders, imposed restrictions on individuals suspected of being involved in terrorism but where there was insufficient evidence to prosecute them.

- Voted against the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014, which provided authorities with emergency access to phone and internet records and required communications companies to retain data for 12 months.


His position on foreign wars
- As chairman of his constituency Labour Party, described the Falklands War in 1982 as a “Tory plot” in which unemployed men were sent to die.

- Spoke against the Gulf War, triggered following Saddam Hussein’s decision to invade Kuwait in August 1990.

- One of 13 Labour MPs who declined to force a vote on the bombing in Kosovo.

- Voted against the Iraq War 2003 and addressed the thousands of people who protested against the military intervention.

- Chaired the governing committee of the Stop the War Coalition, which was formed to oppose the Afghanistan War in 2001.

-In 2010 voted against the continued deployment of UK armed forces in Afghanistan.


Addressing a Stop The War Coalition conference in 2011, he told the crowd: “I’ve been involved in opposing anti-terror legislation ever since I first went into Parliament in 1983”.

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Now I get his stance on some of them. But does he speak for the people of just himself !! I just don't see how we can have a leader that is so closed minded and not willing to adopt a balanced approach.

 

[mcfc1632]

He didn't have the power to bring peace to NI but had those that did took his lead thousands of lives could have been saved. That same party who are in power now are still doing the same old shit over and over again with the same old vacuous messages and no hope of any future signs of peace nor security of its citizens.

He had the power and opportunity to have supportive dialogue with all parties rather than just one...........

You are just ignoring the reality for convenience I would suggest

 

[City Raider]

All her arrogance is coming back to bite her on the arse, no matter the result thursday she should be gone.

this sums it up for me though.

It is interesting what all this will mean for the Labour party. I'm not sure if Labours poll gains are due to an increased appetite for social based policies or are just down to May's total and utter incompetence.

Even if not elected, it would be a result if Labour can finally say goodbye to the betrayal by Blair and his cronies.

 

[stonerblue]

Desperate - those exposing the reality of Corbyn LOL!!!!!

You are the one seeking - along with the other desperate ones here - to bury the old Corbyn and 're-brand' him.

Would that be because the real Corbyn would not be attractive to the majority of the UK public - would that be because the election is just a few days away and therefore you just want to suppress the reality of Corbyn for just a few days more??

We all saw him founder on his dealing with the drone strike on IS leaders - his now familiar avoidance and prevarication as he speaks about need to 'consider' all facts etc......

IS have claimed responsibility for Manchester - and now for London. Just what would most UK citizens want to happen if the US or UK forces had the opportunity to take their leaders out - I think that we all know that it would be a massive support for/of action - but what would Corbyn do????

We actually do not need to 'wonder' about the reality of what he would do - he was more clear on his view, - i.e. when not lying because he is in an election campaign - following the drone strike that took Jihadi John out - you know the guy that was delighting in having himself videoed cutting people's heads off.

Did he welcome the demise of that zealotry bastard or did he criticise the action???? Do you want to guess which one.

http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20151117/3566778/Jeremy-Corbyn-Criticizes-Shoot-to-Kill-Policy.htm

Anyway, as an observer only of the thread since the Manchester attack, I have seen the disgusting manner in which the obsessive lefties have been doing what I have just been accused off - using tragedy for political gain. I am just posting the truth of matters.

Also, having witnessed the postings over the last week or so, I know that I should not waste any effort in replying to any of those obsessive lefties that will not stint in any effort to deny the reality of Corbyn's stances simply for the political convenience of there being an election in a few days.

Corbyn said he would rather bring him to trial than kill him. Now, given the supposed wish of these twats to die for their cause, wouldn't locking the fucker up forever have been more of a 'punishment'?

And give over with all this 'lefty' this 'lefty' that bollocks.

 

[Tanzeylee]

It is interesting what all this will mean for the Labour party. I'm not sure if Labours poll gains are due to an increased appetite for social based policies or are just down to May's total and utter incompetence.

Even if not elected, it would be a result if Labour can finally say goodbye to the betrayal by Blair and his cronies.

And yet Blair is the only labour leader to win power since 1974

 

[smudgedj]

Ok so I've looked into what he's opposed.



Corbyn's position on terror legislation
- Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Bill in 1984. It introduced police powers to arrest a person suspected of involvement in acts of terrorism connected to Northern Ireland. Looking back in 2011 he said: “It probably generated more support for those who wish to commit those acts than anything else, because it criminalised large numbers of people who had committed no criminal wrong.”

- Opposed the 1989 Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Bill, which proscribed the IRA and Irish National Liberation Army.

- Voted against the 2000 Terrorism Bill, which introduced police powers to stop and search anyone in a designated area without having to show reasonable suspicion for doing so.


- Opposed the 2006 Terrorism Bill, which outlawed the glorification of terrorism, cracked down on jihadists attending terror training camps and prohibited the circulation of terrorist publications.

- Opposed the introduction of Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures (TPIMs) in 2011. The measures, which replaced control orders, imposed restrictions on individuals suspected of being involved in terrorism but where there was insufficient evidence to prosecute them.

- Voted against the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014, which provided authorities with emergency access to phone and internet records and required communications companies to retain data for 12 months.


His position on foreign wars
- As chairman of his constituency Labour Party, described the Falklands War in 1982 as a “Tory plot” in which unemployed men were sent to die.

- Spoke against the Gulf War, triggered following Saddam Hussein’s decision to invade Kuwait in August 1990.

- One of 13 Labour MPs who declined to force a vote on the bombing in Kosovo.

- Voted against the Iraq War 2003 and addressed the thousands of people who protested against the military intervention.

- Chaired the governing committee of the Stop the War Coalition, which was formed to oppose the Afghanistan War in 2001.

-In 2010 voted against the continued deployment of UK armed forces in Afghanistan.


Addressing a Stop The War Coalition conference in 2011, he told the crowd: “I’ve been involved in opposing anti-terror legislation ever since I first went into Parliament in 1983”.

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Now I get his stance on some of them. But does he speak for the people of just himself !! I just don't see how we can have a leader that is so closed minded and not willing to adopt a balanced approach.

Don't worry. He's going to commision a report.