BlueHammer85
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Most of that sounds fantastic on paper but what's the reality of it all happening if they get in?
This is a cliche now, whatever a opposition proposes anyone can use this line
Most of that sounds fantastic on paper but what's the reality of it all happening if they get in?
However, you can make an assessment of credibility based on previous record.This is a cliche now, whatever a opposition proposes anyone can use this line
To vote for the Tories after all those cuts affecting the poorest, disabled and most vulnerable in our society doesn't suggest you have much of a heart now does it? And in terms of a brain. Folk on here keep repeating how the Tories are the best candidates to bring about stability and see us through the mess of Brexit. It was the Tories whom created the instability by calling for a referendum in the first place. They did that based on the instability of their own party anti -EU contingent. They've also nearly tripled the national debt meaning the austerity cuts were nothing but malicious. Now tell me again how you can have a heart and vote Tory and a brain given it was they whom caused the Brexshit mess we are now in - that and tripling the national debt. It's complete folly to vote Tory no matter how you look at it. That's not just my opinion, it's fact!
Good man! ;-)Your balanced, reasonable, fact based assessment of the situation has made me think again.
I'm going to vote for the Labour party now. Power to the people. Fucking tory scum.
Thanks comrade.
To vote for the Tories after all those cuts affecting the poorest, disabled and most vulnerable in our society doesn't suggest you have much of a heart now does it? And in terms of a brain. Folk on here keep repeating how the Tories are the best candidates to bring about stability and see us through the mess of Brexit. It was the Tories whom created the instability by calling for a referendum in the first place. They did that based on the instability of their own party anti -EU contingent. They've also nearly tripled the national debt meaning the austerity cuts were nothing but malicious. Now tell me again how you can have a heart and vote Tory and a brain given it was they whom caused the Brexshit mess we are now in - that and tripling the national debt. It's complete folly to vote Tory no matter how you look at it. That's not just my opinion, it's fact!
To vote for the Tories after all those cuts affecting the poorest, disabled and most vulnerable in our society doesn't suggest you have much of a heart now does it? And in terms of a brain. Folk on here keep repeating how the Tories are the best candidates to bring about stability and see us through the mess of Brexit. It was the Tories whom created the instability by calling for a referendum in the first place. They did that based on the instability of their own party anti -EU contingent. They've also nearly tripled the national debt meaning the austerity cuts were nothing but malicious. Now tell me again how you can have a heart and vote Tory and a brain given it was they whom caused the Brexshit mess we are now in - that and tripling the national debt. It's complete folly to vote Tory no matter how you look at it. That's not just my opinion, it's fact!
You can say the Tories created the Brexit problem but the people were asked and they voted to leave, that has nothing to do with the Tory party.
Obviously the poor and vulnerable need more help and protection and that is the one thing I cannot stand about the Tories but the answer is not Corbyn's gang. I don't want any of those things but I'm not willing to vote to impose a socialist government which will be at the expense of everyone.
If we had a centrist opposition which would do the above whilst retaining a careful approach to the economy, business, defence and everything else... They would absolutely wipe the floor of the clowns currently on both sides.
So the Tories have my vote purely because there is no other choice and it will finally get rid of the idiotic, self serving momentum mob currently running down Labour. Vote for Labour and it will lead to deselection of the current PLP hence preserving his position and allowing the Tories to do whatever they want for a decade.
You can say the Tories created the Brexit problem but the people were asked and they voted to leave, that has nothing to do with the Tory party.
Obviously the poor and vulnerable need more help and protection and that is the one thing I cannot stand about the Tories but the answer is not Corbyn's gang. I don't want any of those things but I'm not willing to vote to impose a socialist government which will be at the expense of everyone.
If we had a centrist opposition which would do the above whilst retaining a careful approach to the economy, business, defence and everything else... They would absolutely wipe the floor of the clowns currently on both sides.
So the Tories have my vote purely because there is no other choice and it will finally get rid of the idiotic, self serving momentum mob currently running down Labour. Vote for Labour and it will lead to deselection of the current PLP hence preserving his position and allowing the Tories to do whatever they want for a decade.
- Labour will stand up for everyone, not just a privileged few
- Labour will raise the minimum wage to more than £8 by October 2019 and promote the living wage.
- Labour will ban exploitative zero-hours contracts so that anyone working regular hours for more than 12 weeks can get a regular contract
- Labour won't give tax breaks to millionaires, They will cut taxes for millions of people on low and middle incomes instead.
- Labour will clamp down on tax avoidance and ban 'non-dom' status (up the hammers!)
- Labour will cut the deficit every year and balance the books, sensibly and fairly, without the extreme spending cuts the Tories are planning to make.
- Labour will scrap the Bedroom Tax
- Labour will extend free childcare from 15 to 25 hours a week for working parents of three- and four-year-olds
- Labour will control immigration with fair rules and make it illegal for employers to undercut wages by exploiting workers.
- Labour will train and recruit 20,000 more nurses and 8,000 more doctors by 2020, paid for by tackling tax avoidance, a levy on tobacco companies, and a tax on the most expensive properties worth over £2 million.
- Labour will guarantee a GP appointment within 48 hours - and on the same day for those who need it.
- Labour will radically improve mental health provision, especially for young people, by prioritising investment in under-18s and making sure teachers are trained to spot problems early
- Labour will cut tuition fees from £9,000 to £6,000 (which will help students and is also good for our economy).
- Labour will freeze energy bills until 2017 so they can fall but not rise, and give the regulator the power to cut bills when wholesale prices fall.
- Labour are determined to tackle climate change and create a million green jobs
Brexit
- Labour backs Brexit
- Labour would guarantee rights for EU nationals who live in the UK
- Labour would give Parliament a say on the final deal
- Labour would prioritise trade with the EU and look at staying in the customs union
- Labour would ditch the Great Repeal Bill and emphasise the continuation of EU rights post-Brexit
That's because it's a given. Everyone already knows that the path to world peace is forged by the will of Labour.you missed Labour will deliver world peace off your list.
you missed Labour will deliver world peace off your list.
How many money trees will they be planting?
If any more than Tax and Spend Theresa who just intends to go straight to the source.... us - increase VAT and NI take from pensioners and now likely to offer owners of diesel cars some of my taxes to scrap them to get them out of a pollution hole. Your question is conjecture the only party who have effectively confirmed they will take money off us all is the Tories
I'd much rather be told that my taxes would be going up to pay for X, Y and Z than be told X, Y and Z would be introduced without the costs spelled out. How do you suppose Labour are planning to afford all of their promises?
They most certainly do. There is an argument often put forward on here that, in this country, you vote for either a known MP, or a particular party, but NOT for a Prime Minister. In the next breath, they tell you Jezza can't be trusted, he's not a leader and you can't vote for him. I wish they'd make up their minds! It's a given, that the only people who can vote for him, (Islington North) will vote for him.White van man
Pensioners
The "working class" voters the Tories used to target.
They won't say if they will keep the pensions triple lock (They won't).
The chancellor sees self employed as the same cash cow as welfare claimants were under Gideon.
Teresa May is mirroring Gordon Brown on the election trail, yet the media are ignoring it. Keep bashing Corbyn, whilst licking UKIP's arse and ignire the Lib Dems and the Greens who have MP's.
Anyone who earns less than enough to be financially stable why the fuck do you vote Tory? Do you just follow what the media tells you? I do wonder....
Mr Hammers pledges look really smashing.
However Mr corbyn comes across as a dangerous individual that does not connect with anything that is quintisensialy English.
There is more chance of Corybnn becoming prime minister than me becoming a moderator of this Moons surface.
We shall see.
Eight pounds an hour you say ? Woopie doo !
Mr Hammers pledges look really smashing.
However Mr corbyn comes across as a dangerous individual that does not connect with anything that is quintisensialy English.
There is more chance of Corybnn becoming prime minister than me becoming a moderator of this Moons surface.
We shall see.
Eight pounds an hour you say ? Woopie doo !