General Election June 8th

[Chippy_boy]

He was calm, called Corbyn "an old friend", had a bit of a joke and absolutely savaged Labour on spending plans from "a magic money tree". When under fire he swatted away questions to the point where the interviewer asked why he could give answers and May couldn't.

Look at her here, total deer in headlights panic.



Davis was a behemoth of a politician compared to May. Funnily, Alistair Campbell (vehemently anti-Corbyn) has been banging this drum for years and has been calling May a bang average politician promoted above her station. Didn't really see that until today.

I've said so since before she became PM.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

She's not great in front of a studio audience. I'm not great presenting in front of hundreds of people either but I'm a damned good negotiator to be honest if not immodest.

They are completely different skills.

So when faced with some pretty normal people who are asking her relevant simple questions she's not good? Probably best that she isn't running the country in that case.

 

[hilts]

She's not great in front of a studio audience. I'm not great presenting in front of hundreds of people either but I'm a damned good negotiator to be honest if not immodest.

They are completely different skills.

It's actually amazing people don't know what a negotiation involves and that answering questions from the public or paxman on TV doesn't even relate.

 

[Damocles]

It's actually amazing people don't know what a negotiation involves and that answering questions from the public or paxman on TV doesn't even relate.

How somebody deals with high pressure/tense situations has absolutely no relation to how they deal with high pressure/tense negotiations?

And let's be frank here, if Corbyn had that type of performance you'd all be slating him for it as weak.

 

[RandomJ]

She's not great in front of a studio audience. I'm not great presenting in front of hundreds of people either but I'm a damned good negotiator to be honest if not immodest.

They are completely different skills.

Difference is you're not in the public eye. The people you negotiate with don't watch you on TV, don't see your signs of weakness so you can walk in and crack on. She is in the public eye, the public and more importantly everyone she will be negotiating with will have been watching that and will be licking their lips in anticipation.

 

[Damocles]

I've said so since before she became PM.

I think sometimes we forget that she fell into the job due to a variety of people backing out rather than through her own popularity.

She'll still twat Corbyn by probably 80-100 seats but just goes to show the weird world of politics.

 

[worsleyweb]

How somebody deals with high pressure/tense situations has absolutely no relation to how they deal with high pressure/tense negotiations?

And let's be frank here, if Corbyn had that type of performance you'd all be slating him for it as weak.

He is a career politician and more experienced at taking shit. Paxman exposed the truth - he is even more left wing than his manifesto. The public know that too. Easier to look better when you are making promises that don't add up. She has to look good while balancing the books - much harder to do. Like telling my kids they can only have x for their birthday as we have a household budget.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

He was calm, called Corbyn "an old friend", had a bit of a joke and absolutely savaged Labour on spending plans from "a magic money tree". When under fire he swatted away questions to the point where the interviewer asked why he could give answers and May couldn't.

Look at her here, total deer in headlights panic.



Davis was a behemoth of a politician compared to May. Funnily, Alistair Campbell (vehemently anti-Corbyn) has been banging this drum for years and has been calling May a bang average politician promoted above her station. Didn't really see that until today.

i watch pretty much all the brexit debate in parliament and he was the same.

 

[worsleyweb]

I think sometimes we forget that she fell into the job due to a variety of people backing out rather than through her own popularity.

She'll still twat Corbyn by probably 80-100 seats but just goes to show the weird world of politics.

Will admit I much would have preferred boris and miss Cameron greatly. He was a wonderful politician.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

You commented on her being better than expected. Someone posted that you posting that meant she didn't do well which brought the 'conservative not sycophant' comment which was followed by a comment on you being an ex-serviceman not supporting terrorists. I was merely pointing out that, whatever you think of Corbin, Foot, Marx, Engels, Blair, Brown, Stalin or Lenin for that matter, doesn't influence how Mrs May performed on live tv. That's all.

You said I said she did well. I did not say that. Simple.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Labours caring side strikes again

Cult

Oh no, you've got me wrong, I'm a left winger alright, I go out of my way for my fellow man, love kittens and puppies, the smell of freshly baked bread, all that sort of thing, but when it comes to Tories I despise them, I mean really hate them and as for those that vote for them, well I tolerate them and have cordial relationships with some of them, but none our my friends.

I find it best to be honest about these thing.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

How somebody deals with high pressure/tense situations has absolutely no relation to how they deal with high pressure/tense negotiations?

And let's be frank here, if Corbyn had that type of performance you'd all be slating him for it as weak.

I know quite a few people who are fucking brutal round a conference table but rubbish in front of an audience. But they wisely haven't chosen a career in politics.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

You said I said she did well. I did not say that. Simple.

I think it's fair to say that no deal is better than a bad deal then.
She was better than I expected in the end.

Apologies. I didn't realise you'd expected her to be absolutely dreadful.

 

[worsleyweb]

Oh no, you've got me wrong, I'm a left winger alright, I go out of my way for my fellow man, love kittens and puppies, the smell of freshly baked bread, all that sort of thing, but when it comes to Tories I despise them, I mean really hate them and as for those that vote for them, well I tolerate them and have cordial relationships with some of them, but none our my friends.

I find it best to be honest about these thing.

I have binned off a few long term friends who vote labour recently. Hate them as much as you hate us.

Have to be honest about these things.

 

[hilts]

How somebody deals with high pressure/tense situations has absolutely no relation to how they deal with high pressure/tense negotiations?

And let's be frank here, if Corbyn had that type of performance you'd all be slating him for it as weak.

I have said corbyn did well and may didn't you must have missed it several times and no they don't relate to each other in the slightest. If you think sat in a room free of the general publics general fuckwittery is the same as private negotiations then think harder about it. Also and this is really obvious but a sitting PM in situations like this especially in the current climate is pretty much fucked before she walked in ther room. But she could have handled it better.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

Oh no, you've got me wrong, I'm a left winger alright, I go out of my way for my fellow man, love kittens and puppies, the smell of freshly baked bread, all that sort of thing, but when it comes to Tories I despise them, I mean really hate them and as for those that vote for them, well I tolerate them and have cordial relationships with some of them, but none our my friends.

I find it best to be honest about these thing.

If that isn't tongue in cheek i'd say you have the vision of a person in a cult or at the very least a sectarian mindset, it can't be healthy being that obsessive and vindictive.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Apologies. I didn't realise you'd expected her to be absolutely dreadful.

Did I expect her to be absolutely dreadful or are you putting words in my mouth again? ;-) Just pulling your leg now mate. xx

 

[hilts]

Oh no, you've got me wrong, I'm a left winger alright, I go out of my way for my fellow man, love kittens and puppies, the smell of freshly baked bread, all that sort of thing, but when it comes to Tories I despise them, I mean really hate them and as for those that vote for them, well I tolerate them and have cordial relationships with some of them, but none our my friends.

I find it best to be honest about these thing.

Like I said a cult

 

[The perfect fumble]

I have binned off a few long term friends who vote labour recently. Hate them as much as you hate us.

Have to be honest about these things.

Well, at least we agree on something. Still, blows away all this country coming together bollocks, don't you think?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Agree with most on here - Paxman was a joke especially with Corbyn. Most only relevant were we holding an election in 1985 but hey ho what to expect from him. On May he tried his Michael Howard repeating the question trick and looked pretty pissed off she sussed him and wouldn't answer. What I did think was that May just basically didn't answer any question and shoe horned Brexit into every retort. The whole schtick from here seemed "we can't tell you the answer to that you have to trust me that we will consult and you'll come out of it ok " - newsflash - we can't ALL be winners !! What made me giggle was she had obviously been told to give up on the strong and stable quote and a few times she stumbled and turned stable into stability - that penny has dropped with her at least