General Videogame Thread

Tricky_Trev said:
Wow, the Witcher 3 is 70% off on Steam. £7.49 or £10.49 with both DLC’s. I still haven’t played it so I think I’m going to take advantage of this whilst I wait for a better gaming experience with Cyberpunk 2077.
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You will not regret it mate.

My all time favourite PS4 game.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Have one you’re selling?

Edit: and you genuinely don’t think this debacle is on GDPR and that the solution is just for everyone to buy a PS5, those that pre-ordered on the last-gen consoles can get ****ed?
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I’ve never really taken an interest in CP tbh so not really been watching what happened with it over the years.

having said that I’ll probably give it a go after a couple of patches.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Makes you wonder how broken cyberpunk was BEFORE the delays.
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I've seen videos of the bugs and issues people have had but I've played around 6 hours on a Xbox Series X and I've run into hardly any issues at all. I'm ruuning it on performance mode and getting 60fps on 1080-1440P. Only time I've seen bugs is when I've killed a couple of enemies and there guns floated in the air and I couldn't collect them. Everything else has been fine for me
 
kippaxwarrior said:
I've seen videos of the bugs and issues people have had but I've played around 6 hours on a Xbox Series X and I've run into hardly any issues at all. I'm ruuning it on performance mode and getting 60fps on 1080-1440P. Only time I've seen bugs is when I've killed a couple of enemies and there guns floated in the air and I couldn't collect them. Everything else has been fine for me
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Think he was referring to last gen issues, mate.

It does seem to not be that bad on next gen, from the reports I have read and some messages I have gotten off a few mates that have been playing It on PS5.

Though, one has said they ran in to a mission breaking bug in the first act that forced him to reload a save from about 20-30 minutes previous to fix.


SWP's back said:
I’ve never really taken an interest in CP tbh so not really been watching what happened with it over the years.

having said that I’ll probably give it a go after a couple of patches.
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As I alluded to in an earlier post, it’s been a bit of a train wreck: you can see it coming, it’s probably not going to go all that well, but because of sheer momentum, there’s not much you can do but wait for the crash, hope not too many are harmed, assess the damage, hope the relevant authorities can clean things up so the tracks can be used again, and work to ensure it never happens again (though, it will).

Regarding just buying a PS5 to solve it, they aren’t that easy to get your hands on right now, and even so, I have other priorities (financial and otherwise) that make it difficult to justify it.

This is actually going to be my last few weeks I would likely be able to consistently play any games, full stop, which makes it all the more disappointing for me personally.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Think he was referring to last gen issues, mate.

It does seem to not be that bad on next gen, from the reports I have read and some messages I have gotten off a few mates that have been playing It on PS5.

Though, one has said they ran in to a mission breaking bug in the first act that forced him to reload a save from about 20-30 minutes previous to fix.




As I alluded to in an earlier post, it’s been a bit of a train wreck: you can see it coming, it’s probably not going to go all that well, but because of sheer momentum, there’s not much you can do but wait for the crash, hope not to many are harmed, assess the damage, hope the relevant authorities can clean things up so the tracks can be used again, and work to ensure it never happens again (though, it will).

Regarding just buying a PS5 to solve it, they aren’t that easy to get your hands on right now, and even so, I have other priorities (financial and otherwise) that make it difficult to justify it.

This is actually going to be my last few weeks I would likely be able to consistently play any games, full stop, which makes it all the more disappointing for me personally.
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Ah mate that’s shit. Thinking of you bud.
 
Definitely at risk of fanboying here, because I trashed Fallout 4 on release because of bugs (TBF that included NPC's disappearing in the opening scenes, and some really ropey graphics, including cardboard cut out 2d flat trees)... but I seem to remember reading The Witcher III was struggling around 20fps on Xbox One S. People still played it and loved it.

I'm a little surprised by the performance issues on PC, but I usually reckon on a bit of tweaking to get most things working right. Some people who've really struggled are fixing problems by reinstalling the new Nvidia driver twice or three times (it's always best to use DDU). Leaving cascading shadows enabled apparently causes a very big performance hit. I don't really know what people expected, but it's not a twitchy shooter, and with adaptive sync monitors anything that stays above 45fps is usually not that different from the magic solid 60fps of old.

Still, I'm definitely tempted for at least one more driver release and patch.
 
bugsyblue said:
I bought it and couldn't get into it either! Do you have to persist for a bit?
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Yes, I had some headphones on this time too, so probably helped me get immersed into it. I really enjoyed the dialogue and missions as it got going, plus I began to understand the levelling, my place in the world etc.
 
Summerbuzz said:
Definitely at risk of fanboying here, because I trashed Fallout 4 on release because of bugs (TBF that included NPC's disappearing in the opening scenes, and some really ropey graphics, including cardboard cut out 2d flat trees)... but I seem to remember reading The Witcher III was struggling around 20fps on Xbox One S. People still played it and loved it.

I'm a little surprised by the performance issues on PC, but I usually reckon on a bit of tweaking to get most things working right. Some people who've really struggled are fixing problems by reinstalling the new Nvidia driver twice or three times (it's always best to use DDU). Leaving cascading shadows enabled apparently causes a very big performance hit. I don't really know what people expected, but it's not a twitchy shooter, and with adaptive sync monitors anything that stays above 45fps is usually not that different from the magic solid 60fps of old.

Still, I'm definitely tempted for at least one more driver release and patch.
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Just to clarify, none of my comments are really about the PC version. That is an entirely different beast to the closed system development of console versions and CDPR cannot really be solely blamed for many of the issues people are having on PC. When you have millions of possible software/hardware configurations you are simply going to have issues that will take time to resolve and could not have been reasonably eliminated prior to release. As you said, some of the issues people are complaining about aren’t even really issues (at least, not in a way CDPR can functionally mitigate).

My criticisms have been about the console versions, with a specific focus on the last gen consoles, where I think criticism is not only fair but absolutely needed to hold CDPR accountable.

As far as the original state of The Witcher 3 (and Fallout 4, both of which I ultimately very much enjoyed), I agree that it was in a problematic state, but I think it was still in better shape than the initial release state of CP when it comes to the original consoles it was developed for (especially in the context of other recent end-of-cycle games released that performed beautifully). That is the main thrust of the criticism. As I and others have said, if it was never going to run well on last gen it should never have been released on last gen (and certainly not advertised so heavily as playable on last gen). And CDPR certainly shouldn’t have used underhanded tactics to avoid losing pre-orders and launch sales.

Anyway, I suppose I should get off my soapbox. It’s only a game. It’s just very disappointing to have my long running suspicions proven right in this case. I was really hoping to be proven wrong so I could use this last window of ability to play games at all on what would likely be the game that perfectly represents all of my favourite mechanics/genres. I have been an RPG player since I was very young and this was meant to be my gaming coup de grace. In a way, I guess it still is. Perhaps too high of expectations, to be fair. But I expected better of CDPR in particular.

SWP's back said:
Ah mate that’s shit. Thinking of you bud.
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Cheers, I appreciate your thoughts, mate. At the risk of being cliche, it is what it is. Not much else to say, really. Trying to stay in a good headspace and make the best of what is left (easier said than done, of course; many days I am a miserable ****... so not much has changed there).

You’ll likely be seeing less of me as the next few months roll on. I’ll still be lurking for awhile, though, enjoying the smackdowns in the Politics Threads and wishing I could join in again.

Hope you and yours have a lovely holiday season and we all have a much happier new year!
 
citytill1die84 said:
Who's playing Cyberpunk on PS5? The graphics are terrible :( I've got my HDR TV 4k and it looks absolutely shit
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Was really tempted to get it but held off due to the buggy reviews and a lack of console footage...then ive seen loads of comments like yours! Shite, sorry man. Think ill hold off for a few months until they fix it all. God knows when the official next gen upgrades will come along.
 
twosips said:
Was really tempted to get it but held off due to the buggy reviews and a lack of console footage...then ive seen loads of comments like yours! Shite, sorry man. Think ill hold off for a few months until they fix it all. God knows when the official next gen upgrades will come along.
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Ye I spoke to u on Twitter before saying a few bugs never bothered me but jeez it honestly looks terrible, it's like a PS3 game.

Really pissed off :(
 
wolviedinho said:
What is CP 2077 gameplay like? Open world restrictions or more like GTA? I missed the hype around this game.

Got a bargain on Metro exodus for the Playstation- £6 pound reduced from
£35. It’s nots as creepy as the first game.
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Once you have done the initial intro parts the whole world becomes unlocked. There is no do zone A to unlock zone B etc.

Plus there is way more vertical roam space than most games.
 
twosips said:
Was really tempted to get it but held off due to the buggy reviews and a lack of console footage...then ive seen loads of comments like yours! Shite, sorry man. Think ill hold off for a few months until they fix it all. God knows when the official next gen upgrades will come along.
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Slated for later in 2021.

So, given recent CDPR development trends, I would say you’ll most likely have it in 2025. ;-)
 
citytill1die84 said:
Ye I spoke to u on Twitter before saying a few bugs never bothered me but jeez it honestly looks terrible, it's like a PS3 game.

Really pissed off :(
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Cheers for the info, mate. Important for those thinking of picking it up.

Sorry it is so **** right now, though. Is that with the Day 0 and Day 1 patches?
 
citytill1die84 said:
Ye I spoke to u on Twitter before saying a few bugs never bothered me but jeez it honestly looks terrible, it's like a PS3 game.

Really pissed off :(
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Ahhhh I remember that! Unlucky man. I'm not too arsed about bugs either, but there's always a threshold of when it starts to feel just unfinished and eventually it just ruins immersion. My mate who reviewed it warned me big time to hold off, hence why I didn't pick it up. FWIW, its being slated all over social media, so i'd guess the devleopers are working big time to fix it.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Maybe that’s where they got 2077 from
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That was the standard joke when CDPR kept delaying release.

Unfortunately for them, it now seems to be the joke about when the game will be what they billed it to be (a la No Man’s Sky).
 
twosips said:
Ahhhh I remember that! Unlucky man. I'm not too arsed about bugs either, but there's always a threshold of when it starts to feel just unfinished and eventually it just ruins immersion. My mate who reviewed it warned me big time to hold off, hence why I didn't pick it up. FWIW, its being slated all over social media, so i'd guess the devleopers are working big time to fix it.
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Ye they've got to do something, even if they tidy it up just a little.
 
twosips said:
Ahhhh I remember that! Unlucky man. I'm not too arsed about bugs either, but there's always a threshold of when it starts to feel just unfinished and eventually it just ruins immersion. My mate who reviewed it warned me big time to hold off, hence why I didn't pick it up. FWIW, its being slated all over social media, so i'd guess the devleopers are working big time to fix it.
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Yeah, I also have a high bug threshold having played many a Bethesda title. But, just like with a few of theirs, when it starts to pull you out of the world or require save reloads to overcome game/mission breaking bugs, it is too much. With those I either waited to pick it up until I was reasonably certain most of the bugs were fixed (what I did with Fallout: New Vegas and The Witcher 3) or I give it a pass entirely (Fallout 76).


citytill1die84 said:
It had a 50gb update this morning but I've no idea what it fixed, certainly not the graphics ha.

Ebay it is i guess.
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That’s what I was afraid of. A part of me was still holding out hope that the patches would take care of most of the old gen issues, at least, which is what CDPR said they would do. I can deal with (and expected) the graphic downgrade but from what I have seen/heard, even that is laughably bad compared to how it was being shown over the last few years.

Seems they’ve gone full Bethesda and/or Hello Games (pre-redemption) in a few ways.

Still, if you got the disc version it can always be used as a coaster, so there is some intrinsic value! ;-)
 
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