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[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Do you think John Boyega is racist?

That is irrelevant as to whether or not Trump is racist, but I do not dispute that some black people may be guilty of racism also.

 

[BluechesterCity]

This is not about winning and losing; it's about Trump being racist. He is by the way.

Even if the you say the Mexican comments is false, you may have a point, but those comments were only clarified after the initial outrage.

Saying someone is a racist doesn't make it true. No matter how many times you read it in the Guardian. No, they were only clarified after certain sections of the media selectively edited his remarks. People who were outraged apparently lack the independent thinking skills to do a 10 second fact check.

8% of African Americans disagreed with you in 2016.

28% of the Hispanic vote

27% of the Asian vote

36% Other

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2016

 

[bluemcr]

That is irrelevant as to whether or not Trump is racist.

Yeah of course it is I'm just throwing it in there. Hes quoted as saying "White on black racism is the only racism that matters to me" it's just I found that offensive.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Yeah of course it is I'm just throwing it in there. Hes quoted as saying "White on black racism is the only racism that matters to me" it's just I found that offensive.

It can be difficult to empathise I guess. Given that I'm white I can only begin to imagine how difficult it must be to know that the colour of my skin could mean the difference between a whole number of outcomes and opportunities. White on black racism matters to him because he lives it on a daily basis.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Saying someone is a racist doesn't make it true. No matter how many times you read it in the Guardian. No, they were only clarified after certain sections of the media selectively edited his remarks. People who were outraged apparently lack the independent thinking skills to do a 10 second fact check.

8% of African Americans disagreed with you in 2016.

28% of the Hispanic vote

27% of the Asian vote

36% Other

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2016

Those figures are misleading. The votes were cast predominantly on perceived economic outcome, not a race argument. If you believe a racist is going to significantly increase your income you would bite your lip and take it. You aren't going to turn that down just because you think he's a racist, especially if you are in a low income bracket.

 

[bluemcr]

It can be difficult to empathise I guess. Given that I'm white I can only begin to imagine how difficult it must be to know that the colour of my skin could mean the difference between a whole number of outcomes and opportunities. White on black racism matters to him because he lives it on a daily basis.

It's ok to be white there I said it. Racism isn't a one way street, for all of mankind to get through this I would of thought you need mutual respect on both sides. I know its black peoples time and most are supporting them but there will come a point in life where it will be our time and I hope we get the same respect and support. I for one and my wife have encountered racism countless times whilst living in Birmingham. Rapper Lil Wayne said hes never encountered racism ever. White privilege please, most whites I know have worked hard for what they have and have come from nothing.

 

[Vialli98]

That is irrelevant as to whether or not Trump is racist, but I do not dispute that some black people may be guilty of racism also.

It can be argued that true racism, the kind of racism that genuinely matter, is the intersection of power and bigotry.

So if the above statement is true, then the absence of true power in society, which black people as a group lack, certainly in the western world, means the most black people can be guilty of racial prejudice, which is pretty fucking horrible also and should never be condoned. It begins to get into complicated philosophical realms when you attempt to truly discuss such a claim, but at the very basic level, one could argue there are big differences between white on black bigotry vs black on white bigotry.

 

[BluechesterCity]

Those figures are misleading. The votes were cast predominantly on perceived economic outcome, not a race argument. If you believe a racist is going to significantly increase your income you would bite your lip and take it. You aren't going to turn that down just because you think he's a racist, especially if you are in a low income bracket.

That's truly fascinating.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Do you think John Boyega is racist?

I dislike John Boyega now.




Not because of last night, but for criticising Star Wars

 

[bluemcr]

It can be argued that true racism, the kind of racism that genuinely matter, is the intersection of power and bigotry.

So if the above statement is true, then the absence of true power in society, which black people as a group lack, certainly in the western world, means the most black people can be guilty of racial prejudice, which is pretty fucking horrible also and should never be condoned. It begins to get into complicated philosophical realms when you attempt to truly discuss such a claim, but at the very basic level, one could argue there are big differences between white on black bigotry vs black on white bigotry.

What would you say the big differences are a few examples.