George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

People are still banging on about ANTIFA like it's a properly structured organisation, when in fact it is nothing but a nail for the Right to hang their own insecurities and prejudice on.

Yes, there may be a logo or a flag, but ANTIFA as a movement in the USA exists in name only. You can't join it, and it certainly doesn't have a head office.

Below is a list of White Nationalist organisations currently operating in the USA, many of which have identified leaders and a formal membership structure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_white_nationalist_organizations#United_States

 

[Ban-jani]

Violent protesters could be jailed within 24 hours under government plans to fast-track cases, reports suggest.The move comes ahead of possible demonstrations this weekend in support of the Black Lives Matter movement.

According to The Times, anybody caught vandalising, causing criminal damage or assaulting police officers could be processed quickly through magistrates' courts with extended opening hours

https://news.sky.com/story/black-li...thin-24-hours-under-government-plans-12005261

Great news.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

gone after Fawlty Towers now, which is sacrilege.

Que?

 

[Sir peace frog]

Que?

:) just watched the full series on Netflix, the major scene and his description of the cricket match does leave you thinking fucking hell. I will post the scene ,

contains racist language

 

[inbetween]

Ahhh, isn't that better......?

 

[Crouchinho]

Can't work out liberals at all. Fucking nut jobs. They call themselves liberal, but they don't accept anyone's point of view, which defeats the purpose of being a liberal. They will violently protest, but if that's countered they will play the victim. If you disagree with them they will call you racist/homophobe/ignorant etc while not hearing your opinion which is kinda like fascist, even though they say they're anti fascist

Got to love these modern day 20 year olds saving the world tearing down statues and smash up stuff because of supposed bad morals, while doing stuff which is unethical too

I much prefer calling people just people, that's what we are, we should not have labels. By calling people black, brown, Muslim etc they are telling us/them they're different to us and need to be loved, kinda condescending and to me worse than the issues itself. That's why these left wing nut jobs need to be drowned at Clacton On Sea

 

[Scottyboi]

Ahhh, isn't that better......?

Disgrace that it is even needed, if you can't respect the people who sacrificed everything for you to live a nice life without tyranny, then you are clearly an enemy of the UK and should be treated as such.

 

[stonerblue]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tter-graffiti-Antifa-symbol-war-memorial.html

You can bet your bottom dollar that Antifa are involved here too. They’re always involved with every protest that happens to some extent.

And those that are involved don’t care about BLM, they just want anarchy.

Is that your proof of an organised political group called antifa?

 

[Ban-jani]

Ahhh, isn't that better......?

Taxpayers, despite it not being a lot but that’s beside the point, are actually having to pay for the cenotaph to be boxed off so it’s not vandalised.

Fucking state of this situation.

 

[Metal Biker]

Can't work out liberals at all. Fucking nut jobs. They call themselves liberal, but they don't accept anyone's point of view, which defeats the purpose of being a liberal. They will violently protest, but if that's countered they will play the victim. If you disagree with them they will call you racist/homophobe/ignorant etc while not hearing your opinion which is kinda like fascist, even though they say they're anti fascist

Got to love these modern day 20 year olds saving the world tearing down statues and smash up stuff because of supposed bad morals, while doing stuff which is unethical too

I much prefer calling people just people, that's what we are, we should not have labels. By calling people black, brown, Muslim etc they are telling us/them they're different to us and need to be loved, kinda condescending and to me worse than the issues itself. That's why these left wing nut jobs need to be drowned at Clacton On Sea

That's simple enough to explain.

They aren't actually liberal. They call themselves it because of what the term itself implies and how it's perceived by wider society; tolerance and respect of others opinions, even if they differ.

One thing i've noticed is when both those on the far-left call themselves "Liberal" but display no liberal attitudes, and those on the right chastise "Liberals" when what they really mean is the far-left authoritarians. Whereas actual Liberals are the ones tolerating both their opinions, even if we are confused by the constant misrepresentations of our views.

 

[stonerblue]

Or you know it could be the 27 million Russian deaths on the eastern front whilst pushing back the might of the German army. Lending makes it sound like it was interest free, America saddled us with debt and as a result broke up our empire and made the dollar the number one currency.

yes Scotty, i know all of that thanks.

 

[stonerblue]

That’s where I make distinctions between BLM and random arseholes getting involved with BLM.

This isn’t one group of people out protesting for equality, Antifa are always there somewhere with their grubby fucking noses being stuck in so they can stir up some trouble.

They have nowt to do with BLM but I’ll bet they’ve been on every march.

How much?

 

[Scottyboi]

yes Scotty, i know all of that thanks.

Just checking after the Rhodesia stuff a couple of days ago.

 

[stonerblue]

Because then they will be called racist

They are burying their heads hoping it will die down
Not a great approach but not sure there is much they can do
I think if it gets too violent and more things damaged etc then public opinion will turn and they will do something
But for the moment nothing

Some people will try to provoke a reaction to them compare police with America

Don't you read the news? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/02/war-grave-vandals-face-jail-get-tough-sentencing-regime/

 

[Tb1981]

Me ignoring points,you can't see boris for what he is and he is the pm,she gets brought up whatever the political thread it might be

Not by me she doesn’t
Happy to mention her when relevant though.
Karen Do you think it is acceptable to attack the police?
If so as the mp for that area I would expect some sort of condemnation

 

[Tb1981]

Don't you read the news? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/02/war-grave-vandals-face-jail-get-tough-sentencing-regime/

For me jail them that’s fine
Whether they choose to do so who knows

 

[ayrshire_blue]

This is what pisses people off

Suffolk Police have apologised after two officers stopped a black couple and demanded ID because they were "driving a motor vehicle on a road".

In footage of the incident, which occurred in Ipswich on Tuesday, an officer apparently accuses the couple of "jumping on the bandwagon" of the Black Lives Matter protests

In an apparent reference to the Black Lives Matter movement, the female officer tells them: "You have turned something irate that shouldn't be. You are just jumping on the bandwagon of the current climate."

The male officer then tells Mr Oniyoke and Mrs Antoine-Oniyoke "you look suspicious

https://news.sky.com/story/ipswich-...-on-bandwagon-of-black-lives-matters-12005101

I'm going to say something unpopular here but I don't see why Suffolk Police have felt the need to go on the defensive over this. People are stopped up and down the country driving their cars for license checks and whatever, it's how a lot of vehicle crime is detected. Otherwise what's the point in sitting a driving test and going through that whole process if nobody is ever going to enforce it anyway?

If, as the officers suggest, the occupants of the car were continually glancing over at the Police then yeah, its reasonable to suggest that might make them a bit suspicious, no? In any case, a very quick licence check and they'd have been on their way - no issues and probably told to enjoy their day.

The comments about jumping on the bandwagon were in poor taste and worthy of criticism, but it seems like they've been drawn in to an argument because the occupants have immediately went on the defensive and played the racial profiling card when it's simply not the case.

Spot checks happen up and down the country, if you have a licence, insurance etc then there's absolutely nothing to worry about. I'd rather get stopped a few times in the mindset that our roads are as safe as possible for everyone to drive on, as opposed to not stopping and engaging with people and the inevitable free for all which arises.

Sorry if people disagree, but just saying it how I see it. So longs the Police stop you and engage in a courteous manner whilst getting the stop check dealt with as quickly as possible so that road users can go ahead and enjoy the rest of their day then I don't see the problem.

 

[domalino]

Antifa don’t want certain factions of society, whose views they oppose, to be allowed to be heard. Censoring freedom of expression, in essence, is Fascist but is an Antifa view.

And I think there should be a distinction between calling Antifa anti-fascists and everyone who isn’t a fascist being anti-fascist.

I’m anti-fascist but I’m not Antifa.

I think Antifa like to make their stance look like they’re this group of the people. But Antifa aren’t that, they are an extremist group of anarchists who are anti-capitalist, anti-liberal, anti-conservative, even anti- some forms of socialism because they aren’t extreme enough.

You do know that Antifa doesn't exist, right?

There's no organisation, no group, it's just a vague sentiment.

Your entire last paragraph is complete and utter nonsense because "they" aren't one group you can ascribe values to.

 

[Metal Biker]

Not by me she doesn’t
Happy to mention her when relevant though.
Karen Do you think it is acceptable to attack the police?
If so as the mp for that area I would expect some sort of condemnation

Or any sort of comment, tbh.

 

[inbetween]

Taxpayers, despite it not being a lot but that’s beside the point, are actually having to pay for the cenotaph to be boxed off so it’s not vandalised.

Fucking state of this situation.

I have heard it over and over again how the left etc want to have the debate but do these images represent an outcome of debate?

This whole thing has gone from a genuine issue to quite literally imposing law and order by mob rule.