George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

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@Dax777 I understand he was being chased. My issue and everyone's issue should be a civilian walking the streets with an assault rifle.

One with which he shoots 3 people, 2 of them dead.

It's so fucked up i don't even know where to begin?

Honestly im beginning to think that a vast majority of the American public are both morally and emotionally bankrupt as they sleepwalk around these issues.

This is the same point I was making yesterday, the problem begins with g and ends in uns.

Without guns the police don't need to be armed and can be defunded, without guns there will be a reduction in violent crime, armed protest and a culture of violence that nobody wants allowing for de-escalation to take place.

The American public have been sleepwalking for decades and to classify something like gun ownership up there with core civil rights is quite literally the most ironic thing ever.

An armed civil war is indeed coming and it's only going to be further encouraged because it benefits politicians on both sides who only care for power. America is broken and burning.

 

[BobKowalski]

This is the same point I was making yesterday, the problem begins with g and ends in uns.

Without guns the police don't need to be armed and can be defunded, without guns there will be a reduction in violent crime, armed protest and a culture of violence that nobody wants allowing for de-escalation to take place.

The American public have been sleepwalking for decades and to classify something like gun ownership up there with core civil rights is quite literally the most ironic thing ever.

An armed civil war is indeed coming and it's only going to be further encouraged because it benefits politicians on both sides who only care for power. American is broken and burning.

Not entirely, which is not say guns are not a problem, but the absence of guns does not change the deep rooted attitudes displayed here.

How can a police force be comfortable with a white youth openly carrying an assault rifle into a volatile situation and not seem to have any issue with that youth killing people, to the extent they blame the protestors for the situation more than the killer?

How is a white youth openly carrying an assault rifle deemed less of a threat than an unarmed black man, or indeed black people in general? What is the driver behind that mindset?

Removing guns from the equation will help, but right now the only side that has the guns or is using the guns isn’t the black guy getting shot in the back or the protestors.

 

[Bigga]

My answer is that a discussion about police budgets is perfectly reasonable, fine and OK, and if, after these discussions have taken place, there is a consensus to remove police funding and allocate it to other departments, I'm perfectly OK with that too. In fact I have said this numerous times, in various ways, on here, check it out if you like. Now, if you can absorb and understand that, and accept it is a stance probably near to the thoughts of most normal people, we're hunky dory.
So, as that clearly reasonable view should be mutually acceptable, why does AOC, and many City mayors, all in places where rioting is endemic, not want this, but want to simply defund them, no clever math, as she puts it, simply defund?
Ask your old schoolmates if you like.

2 days.

Like pulling teeth...

 

[Bigga]

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I have now seen pretty much all the videos I could get my hands on. And there were lots of them from different perspective showing both shooting scenarios.
Sadly in both cases Kyle was originally being chased. In the first case, he was being chased by a guy who had some object in his hand.

Some speculas a molotov cocktail. He threw the bag at the shooter who jumped forward to avoid the thrown object as he kept running and the thrower gave chase, as he got to the end with the guy still chasing he turned and shit his pursuer..
He pursueer dropped between 2 cars, and on of his friends came around to help him, so did the shooter who had circled around the car.

He then turned, made a call and started running to where the 2,ND clip which most have seen of his encounter with 3-4 guys..

Just like the likelihood of Claustrophobia was close to Zero, the likelihood that Kenny gets fired is below Zero. Fire a black man for supporting BLM and the NBA? Stop it dude.

Look I know you are removed from the context, but there is absolutely no risk whatsoever for doing this. This is fake bravery. Virtue Signalling at it's worst.

Firstly, don't tell us your narrative about 'what you've seen'.

Post it and let BM make its own mind up.

Secondly, where did I say the guy would get fired...?

I see you've now moved the discussion on from realising you are NOT clairvoyant or had privy to the studio at any given time...

 

[Bigga]

I don't take any post with insults directed at those who didn't insult you seriously.

If you want your post taken seriously. Well respond like an adult. And use that 'critical thinking' to come up with something other than insults.

What???

I posted sarcasm also taken as dark humour.

YOU decided to put a serious response to it when ANY Brit, half cut or not, would understand the context of the subject thus answer.

You are way WAAAAY beyond understanding sarcasm, which is why you are all befuddled by 'Black Adder', 'Fawlty Towers' and 'The Inbetweeners'.

Nuance is something clearly missing from your education.

We cannot teach you something you lack.

 

[Bigga]

Not sure why you are blaming Hugh Grant but my money is on the continued treatment of Black people added to the fucking moron of a president in the White House.

Are you trying sarcasm with him...?

*SMH*

'Kin 'ell...!

 

[SebastianBlue]

I'll just leave this here.......

Talked about this in the Trump thread, mate.

It’s another implicit call for private citizen militias to “maintain order” with a view to voter/protester/non-white suppression in the election and beyond.

We will — tragically and unconscionably — see more of these same calls over the next few months.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I don't take any post with insults directed at those who didn't insult you seriously.

If you want your post taken seriously. Well respond like an adult. And use that 'critical thinking' to come up with something other than insults.

The irony abounds.

 

[Bigga]

Defunding

Where has called for the abolishment of the police?

“Ms Ocasio-Cortez expressed her support during a debate on New York Spectrum News

"The reduction of our NYPD budget and defunding a $6 billion budget, that costs us books in the hands of our children and costs us very badly needed investment in NYCHA and public housing," Ms Ocasio-Cortez said.“

So in the above she speaks of a reduction in budget. Same as in her instagram:

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And this is why I didn't engage him on AOC.

It's obvious what she thinks on it, so I asked about his ill informed thoughts on the matter.

 

[Bigga]

You are debating someone who refers to the white shooter as ‘Kyle’.

The poster is a troll. The whole point of his posts on this issue or on Trump or on any race issues is to troll for the side doing the shooting and the killing by dumping piles of poo where ever they go until you your head hurts with it all.

Yes, I'm starting to see this.

A poster claiming to be a Black man, so far from understanding Black issues and how all this is such a fragile situation regarding race.

He reminds me of the many I have seen on twitter pleased that they can see basketball with one demographic only.

I find his postings utterly bizarre...