George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[inbetween]

Not entirely, which is not say guns are not a problem, but the absence of guns does not change the deep rooted attitudes displayed here.

How can a police force be comfortable with a white youth openly carrying an assault rifle into a volatile situation and not seem to have any issue with that youth killing people, to the extent they blame the protestors for the situation more than the killer?

How is a white youth openly carrying an assault rifle deemed less of a threat than an unarmed black man, or indeed black people in general? What is the driver behind that mindset?

Removing guns from the equation will help, but right now the only side that has the guns or is using the guns isn’t the black guy getting shot in the back or the protestors.

Of course, no-one can excuse the difference in mentality, certainly in terms of does a black guy hold the right to own a gun as much as the white guy?

With respect to the constitution he does although I disagree anyone should have that right at least if only to stop people dying regardless of their skin colour.

At the end of the day it's no different to moving away from the 'Muslim looking' guy with a backpack, it's subconscious based racial prejudice which society will find difficult and slow to move away from.

No excuse for it but it will take time because of the way people have their values and ways of thinking ingrained into them over many years.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Talked about this in the Trump thread, mate.

It’s another implicit call for private citizen militias to “maintain order” with a view to voter/protester/non-white suppression in the election and beyond.

We will — tragically and unconscionably — see more of these same calls over the next few months.

Its amazing that Carlsson defines going in to maintain law and order is a 17 year old murderer taking control - I keep saying it but the US is fucked.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Its amazing that Carlsson defines going in to maintain law and order is a 17 year old murderer taking control - I keep saying it but the US is fucked.

With every passing day I am more and more convinced of that, as well.

 

[Blue Hefner]

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Defunding

Where has called for the abolishment of the police?

“Ms Ocasio-Cortez expressed her support during a debate on New York Spectrum News

"The reduction of our NYPD budget and defunding a $6 billion budget, that costs us books in the hands of our children and costs us very badly needed investment in NYCHA and public housing," Ms Ocasio-Cortez said.“

So in the above she speaks of a reduction in budget. Same as in her instagram:

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I pointed out what AOC said on page 76.

 

[stonerblue]

How are you still not understanding what “defund the police” means?

Because he doesn't want to

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I have no words for this intellectual dishonesty.

I had some words, but they got deleted.

 

[SWP's back]

I pointed out what AOC said on page 76.

Yes, reducing funding by 1/6th and reallocating that on social spending to reduce crime and criminality.

You seem to think that means cutting all funding and/or abolishing the police.

Seeing as the highest spend per capita on policing in the developed world patently doesn’t work, why not try addressing the causes of the illness rather than the symptoms alone?

 

[SebastianBlue]

I had some words, but they got deleted.

They must have been *some* words!

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Yes, reducing funding by 1/6th and reallocating that on social spending to reduce crime and criminality.

You seem to think that means cutting all funding and/or abolishing the police.

Seeing as the highest spend per capita on policing in the developed world patently doesn’t work, why not try addressing the causes of the illness rather than the symptoms alone?

Ok, let's see if this message resonates then, if Americans are happy to see their cities trashed, communes set up supported by mayors, dozens dead and thousands of businesses destroyed, and the answer is less police, fair enough.
I have a feeling they may not.