George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[SebastianBlue]

This is not likely to be received well by a large portion of the Louisville community (or nationally).

 

[Bigga]

This is not likely to be received well by a large portion of the Louisville community (or nationally).

It's absolutely shocking, but not unexpected, somehow!

According to the AG, an officer saw two people in the hallway, (Breonna Taylor) and Kenneth Walker holding a gun aimed at him. Walker shot and he knew he had been hit. He returned fire, the officer next to him shot his firearm 10 times and someone else shot into the apartment around 16 times, I think. Not one of these bullets hit Walker, who must have still been in the hallway as all this happened in a matter of seconds...

Apparently, it's not concluded which officer's bullet was the fatal one to end Breonna Taylor's life, who was shot 6 times.

Hankison has charged with endangerment of the civilians next door, but not of shooting Taylor.

An incredible story.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Almost laughable really - I will repeat what I have said often enough - until US Law Enforcement and Legal Systems understand that people won't be fobbed off with suspensions, sackings and crappy lower level indictments - proper investigations, proper charges, full trials and legal processes need to be gone through and if that ends up with cops in jail then so be it. Every time they fudge it the powderkeg can be lit.

 

[Bigga]

Almost laughable really - I will repeat what I have said often enough - until US Law Enforcement and Legal Systems understand that people won't be fobbed off with suspensions, sackings and crappy lower level indictments - proper investigations, proper charges, full trials and legal processes need to be gone through and if that ends up with cops in jail then so be it. Every time they fudge it the powderkeg can be lit.

Agreed.

The indictment almost makes it seem like Black people are 'fair game' and that is a TERRIBLE decision!

It's going to lead to more 'Them against Us' levels of thinking and one would have to be sympathetic to that skewed viewpoint.

Literally, Breonna Taylor's neighbours have had more justice than she, herself, has dying at the hands of the police.

Just think about that!

'Powderkeg' is a very good word to use.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Agreed.

The indictment almost makes it seem like Black people are 'fair game' and that is a TERRIBLE decision!

It's going to lead to more 'Them against Us' levels of thinking and one would have to be sympathetic to that skewed viewpoint.

Literally, Breonna Taylor's neighbours have had more justice than she, herself, has dying at the hands of the police.

Just think about that!

'Powderkeg' is a very good word to use.

BLM - RIOTS - FIRES - all can be traced back to decades of injustice for black people. There must be thousands of black people in jail in America for much less of a heinous act than some perpetrated by law enforcement in the USA

 

[domalino]

Agreed.

The indictment almost makes it seem like Black people are 'fair game' and that is a TERRIBLE decision!

It's going to lead to more 'Them against Us' levels of thinking and one would have to be sympathetic to that skewed viewpoint.

Literally, Breonna Taylor's neighbours have had more justice than she, herself, has dying at the hands of the police.

Just think about that!

'Powderkeg' is a very good word to use.

Kenneth Walker (the boyfriend) spent 2 weeks in prison, several months under home arrest and was charged with attempted murder of a police officer.

So far that is the biggest punishment dished out in this case, and he did nothing wrong.

You're right this is a massive powderkeg because it's not just about 1 police officer doing something, it's revealed systemic malpractice & corruption and the state, AG and police have shown no willingness to respond to the people who feel so aggrieved.

 

[Bigga]

Kenneth Walker (the boyfriend) spent 2 weeks in prison, several months under home arrest and was charged with attempted murder of a police officer.

So far that is the biggest punishment dished out in this case, and he did nothing wrong.

You're right this is a massive powderkeg because it's not just about 1 police officer doing something, it's revealed systemic malpractice & corruption and the state, AG and police have shown no willingness to respond to the people who feel so aggrieved.

Honestly, it sends shivers down my spine and I haven't felt that way before despite seeing what we all have for years.

Not even during the LA riots did I feel there was a genuine tipping point at play.

Things can go either way for law enforcement, in particular.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Kenneth Walker (the boyfriend) spent 2 weeks in prison, several months under home arrest and was charged with attempted murder of a police officer.

So far that is the biggest punishment dished out in this case, and he did nothing wrong.

You're right this is a massive powderkeg because it's not just about 1 police officer doing something, it's revealed systemic malpractice & corruption and the state, AG and police have shown no willingness to respond to the people who feel so aggrieved.

BUT....what has to be remembered is this is not just about the Louisville PD. The systemic malpractise is in every PD nationwide - there is barely a community over the last 25 years who won't be able to recall at least one instance like this happening. The wrong people are in charge of the law enforcement agencies and they in turn influence recruitment that mirrors their own opinions and stance.

 

[SebastianBlue]

 

[domalino]

BUT....what has to be remembered is this is not just about the Louisville PD. The systemic malpractise is in every PD nationwide - there is barely a community over the last 25 years who won't be able to recall at least one instance like this happening. The wrong people are in charge of the law enforcement agencies and they in turn influence recruitment that mirrors their own opinions and stance.

You're right and this is such a powderkeg and different to other incidents because it's not just about 1 police officer doing something, it's revealed systemic malpractice & corruption by the police, attorney general and even judiciary over multiple parts of the story.


1) The no-knock warrant was not appropriate in any way. The entire process from officers to judge are implicated in that.

2) The police lied repeatedly on the official reports, about there being no forced entry (despite a battering ram being used) about announcing themselves (Walker and all the neighbours have unanimously said this was a lie) and they even attempted to not list Taylor's injuries.

3) They arrested Walker despite him legally defending his home from armed intruders - and then kept him in prison and charged him which was an astoundingly bad decision over a period of weeks involving the police, and the attorney general.

4) Louisville PD tried to coerce the ex-boyfriend drug dealer into naming her as a co-conspirator in order to justify her death.

5) After making police body camera's a requirement after her death, they turned off their cameras when they killed David McAtee a few months later.

6) They handle the fallout terribly, don't come up with anything for 7 months, and then make any kind of public protest illegal with curfews etc.