George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

ChicagoBlue said:
It’s not an “assault rifle” though. It’s the same “gun” as a 9mm semi automatic pistol...with a stock, a slightly longer barrel and a different bullet that is made to LOOK like an actual “assault rifle,” as used by the military.

An AR-15 just fires bigger bullets with greater accuracy and deadliness over greater distances. Therein lies one of the big problems with gun legislation.

Plus, now you can 3D print almost all of any gun you might care to, and use the “metal parts that make gun go ‘BOOM’” from almost any completely legal gun!
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The AR-15 is an accurate weapon in the right hands (more accurate than a 9mm SA pistol), and more than capable of emptying a 30 round mag of aimed shots in around 30 - 40 seconds. The ONLY difference between the AR and a military assault rifle is that the AR-15 has a fixed safety sear that prevents the hammer from engaging with the firing pin unless the trigger is recycled. It shouldn't be in the hands of civilians.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
The AR-15 is an accurate weapon in the right hands (more accurate than a 9mm SA pistol), and more than capable of emptying a 30 round mag of aimed shots in around 30 - 40 seconds. The ONLY difference between the AR and a military assault rifle is that the AR-15 has a fixed safety sear that prevents the hammer from engaging with the firing pin unless the trigger is recycled. It shouldn't be in the hands of civilians.
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Yes, semi vs full! I understand the dynamics, but in those few differences is the whole ball of wax! That semi-automatic action is in almost every modern handgun. Do you know ANY MODERATE POLITICIAN who believes in banning handguns?


So, for the AR...
Do you legislate away the bullet?
The sear?
The stock?
The barrel?

What about the AR-15 do you legislate against, and how quickly do manufacturers and individuals create a legal workaround?!
It’s multi-billion dollar, Constitutional Whackamole!

I would have no problem with banning AR-15s, but they come back as BS-16s with a minor difference a week later!

As old Charlie Heston said, “My cold dead hands!”

That holds true for many of the people who already own them, too!
 
domalino said:
[citation needed]

Actually don't bother, I already know it's not true.

The chance of a police officer homicide victimization during a routine traffic stop was quite minimal [I.D. Lichtenberg, A. Smith / Journal of Criminal Justice 29 (2001) 419–428 425] — between one in 6.7 million and 20.1 million motor vehicle stops.

On the other hand,1063 people were killed by police during traffic stops in 2015. With 15-20 million traffic stops per year, that's at best 1 in 19,000 chance of being killed by police at a traffic stop.

So that's 1 in 6-20 million vs 1 in 19,000.

I know you're a former police officer Bert, but you really don't need to keep going to bat for the US police who are a completely different animal to UK police.

Policing over here was (as you know) set up for the public. Policing by consent, Peelian principles, the friendly neighbourhood bobby etc.

The police force in the USA was set up by plantation owners to round up escaped slaves, then to scare off free black people from towns where White people didn't want them. It has always been an organisation to punish and intimidate the population.

You've got very little in common with US police force, you really don't need to keep defending them with made up statements like the ones I quoted. No one thinks police over here are like police over there.
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I appreciate the history lesson.
 
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