Germany: Car driven into people at Xmas markets.

ZenHalfTimeCrock said:
Might be just worth knowing that Tommy Robinson-admiring Mahyar Tousi regularly bigs up the regime of Shah Pahlavi on X.

So it's worth recalling the methods of interrogation deployed by the Shah's Savak torturers, which included - apart from the conventional electric wires attached to genitals, beatings on the soles of feet and nail extraction - rape and 'cooking', whereby the victim was strapped to an electrified bed of wire that became a red hot toaster.

Bacon slicers, domestic cookers and acid were also put to imaginative use by the Savak torturers. No wonder that, in 1975, Amnesty International pronounced the Shah’s government to be one of the worst violators of human rights.

This statement is also displayed prominently during the video:

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Note how it is unfalsifiable: either someone is a Muslim even if they make statements to the contrary. It is also effectively essentializing Muslims, making them out to be a fifth column in our midst. In other words, it is an example of anti-Muslim bigotry.

As well as being an attempt to arouse an animus against Muslims in general, Wolf's claim is also incorrect. There are genuine ex-Muslims and they can be read about in Simon Cottee's groundbreaking study The Apostates: When Muslims Leave Islam, which reveals that outside of Muslim-majority societies, former adherents of the faith are not living in fear for their lives but do tend to be ostracized and have to deal with the consequences of that.

Then there is Ali Rizvi, author of the critically acclaimed (by Richard Dawkins and Steven Pinker among others) The Atheist Muslim: A Journey From Religion to Reason, and Alom Shaha, who wrote The Young Atheist's Handbook: Lessons for Living A Good Life Without God.

I would defy anyone to read those two books and then maintain that their authors are dissimulating. For example, does Shaha appear to be practising taqiyya here?

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As well as writing books and the scripts for quite a few TV programmes and short films, I have written articles for a number of print magazines as well as several online publications, including Gua…
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Shaha's book also has a foreword written by Jim Al-Khalili, the well-known Iraqi-British theoretical physicist, science populariser and broadcaster. Khalili is on record as having declared: "as the son of a Protestant Christian mother and a Shia Muslim father, I have nevertheless ended up without a religious bone in my body".

Returning to the notion of taqiyya, or concealment of ones true beliefs, it is usually deployed by Shia Muslims to protect themselves from persecution, and nothing more than that.

To sum up, I would be very wary of Tousi TV and the kind of people Tousi interviews on it.

Unless they are recognised authorities on Islam and international terrorism, and in possession of the relevant academic credentials, they should be treated with caution.

Two such authorities are Shiraz Maher (author of the definitive work on Salafi-Jihadism) and Peter Neumann (who wrote Radicalized: New Jihadists and the Threat to the West).

Both post on X. Maher has yet to comment on Magdeburg but Neumann has. Unfortunately, his tweets are in German, so I'm off now to get my brother to have a look at what he has been saying and to get him to translate the gist for me. This bit was in English though and was presumably posted about Taleb al-Abdulmohsen:

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Jim Al-Khalili and his content are the best things ever created and stuck on you tube, everything that man says is electrified by his enthusiasm.
 
Just got this on our Football group from my mate who lives in Germany (nearest big City is Stuttgart):

"U know what in Germany. The day after the market attack, big gatherings of Palestinians marching through Christmas markets. The disrespectful cunts!
Would be National news any other way!"
 
Dage said:
What buffles me is, that the guy worked as a doctor in a psychiatric ward and his radical outings started 2-3 years ago. How can you work in such an environment without getting called out?
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Yeah, like that never happens....

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These monsters did what they did in plain sight, for years, not late night rants on Twitter.
 
One thing that is clear is just like in the Uk the security and intelligence failed. They were aware of him for a long time and were even warned about him. We’ve had similar with known dangerous criminals not being locked up before they have chance to commit these crimes
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
One thing that is clear is just like in the Uk the security and intelligence failed. They were aware of him for a long time and were even warned about him. We’ve had similar with known dangerous criminals not being locked up before they have chance to commit these crimes
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I don't believe it failed mate, they just did the sum total of fuck all until something did happen AGAIN.
 
hampshireblue said:
And where did you read this, what is the source?
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The clip was from an American channel i think i might have watched a bit not read it.
Maybe CNN? Or maybe France 24.
I can’t remember with watching & reading so many reports
Think the guy was discussing this….

Again, its all reports but hopefully the truth will come out once he get’s interviewed
 

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I am waiting for the day Germany, Sweden and other countries start saying we are not allowing immigrants in... Either that or they start vetting them better. Its just a ticking timeboomb under the seat of politics, I think they are going to have to change their welcoming policy. Hopefully not, but feels like there's going to be a watershed moment.
 
M18CTID said:
It sounds odd for sure but let’s not forget there was an Islamophobic far-right Norwegian terrorist who killed dozens of, errrr, fellow Norwegians in 2011…..
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No it’s not quite the same.
The Norwegian attacked the children of his political “enemies”who were attending an event on an island, organised by a political group. This was after setting off a bomb on the mainland.
They were just innocent children of course, but not random victims like In Germany. It was carefully targeted- I don’t recall reading he was Islamophobic or that it featured in what he did…but I stand to be corrected on that.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
I am waiting for the day Germany, Sweden and other countries start saying we are not allowing immigrants in... Either that or they start vetting them better. Its just a ticking timeboomb under the seat of politics, I think they are going to have to change their welcoming policy. Hopefully not, but feels like there's going to be a watershed moment.
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Are you suggesting Germany should build its' own wall rather than having one built in it?.....
 
Rory Bluelow said:
No it’s not quite the same.
The Norwegian attacked the children of his political “enemies”who were attending an event on an island, organised by a political group. This was after setting off a bomb on the mainland.
They were just innocent children of course, but not random victims like In Germany. It was carefully targeted- I don’t recall reading he was Islamophobic or that it featured in what he did…but I stand to be corrected on that.
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Another interesting aspect of that case is that Breitvik is now eligible for parole. It’s been refused twice already, of course, but his sentence was 21 years, which takes him to 2033.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
No it’s not quite the same.
The Norwegian attacked the children of his political “enemies”who were attending an event on an island, organised by a political group. This was after setting off a bomb on the mainland.
They were just innocent children of course, but not random victims like In Germany. It was carefully targeted- I don’t recall reading he was Islamophobic or that it featured in what he did…but I stand to be corrected on that.
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You have been corrected.

He wanted all Muslims in Europe deported.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
I am waiting for the day Germany, Sweden and other countries start saying we are not allowing immigrants in... Either that or they start vetting them better. Its just a ticking timeboomb under the seat of politics, I think they are going to have to change their welcoming policy. Hopefully not, but feels like there's going to be a watershed moment.
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It's the vetting that's important, all countries should do it better and a complete lack of documents about you identity or a plea that you're homosexual is a red flag IMHO.
 
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