Gigs Thread

Massive Attack, Co-op Arena, 5th June. 4/5

When a gig provokes anger, boredom, (limited) joy, frustration, and - crucially - discussion well into the following days, you know you've attended something that won't be simply forgotten in the annals of gig going.

There is always a debate on what people think a 'gig' should be - albums lovingly (slavishly?) reproduced for adoring paying fans, artistic interpretation of classics, messaging platforms, social gatherings and constructs, joyful outpourings of song and dance in a tough world and more - but Massive Attack certainly went on the attack at the Co-op with an unrelentingly painful message of the current state of global affairs.

To the ire of many - a steady trickle of fans were leaving the co-op from 40 mins onwards (including 2 of our group of 7) - Massive Attack started with climate change speeches and then spent 100 minutes of MK-Ultra-esque messaging on war, corruption, social media brainwashing, conpsiracies and more. For 45 minutes I missed a lot of the music, which tended towards lesser known tracks from Mezzanine, Heligoland and strange covers of Jeff Buckley and Ultravox, as i was brain dumped endless misery on Gaza and Israel.

Much like the Bob Dylan debate, I am of the opinion no band should simply do as the paying crowd demands, they are their own artists who can do exactly as they please as long as the can take the debate/backlash, and so going down this path was their choice. Massive Attack have never shied from controversy in this manner, but even I was slightly taken aback at the unrelenting and slightly torturous nature of the visuals. I think in there resided a point.

My patience and, dare I say, appetite for this sort of artistic license is pretty deep but even i was left feeling a little miffed when, finally, Unfinished Symphony rolled out to zero video background to heighten the musical experience but i was feeling a little hollow and couldn't properly appreciate finally seeing one of my favourite all time songs live. It took Karmacoma to settle and Teardrop was delivered with utter perfection. In fact, away from the visual assault, the music, and in particular the vocals (Horace Andy, Deborah Miller & Elizabeth Fraser), were top notch throughout.

I left feeling i'd seen something. My criticism would be that while messaging and awareness raising are very important, and Massive Attack have form, this was a gig without much hope or joy. Comparing it to Ezra Collective of 2 months earlier felt like polar opposites. Also the visuals did detract from the music, without doubt. There's a place for everything in art, and many will be disgruntled with shelling out £60 for that, but you couldn't deny they did something.
I left confused. Whilst the incessant messaging certainly took away from the sometimes brilliant music, it also polarised my thoughts on the worldwide problems, caused by the madmen pulling the strings. I went last night for the music, but came away wondering what exactly did I witness.
 
I left confused. Whilst the incessant messaging certainly took away from the sometimes brilliant music, it also polarised my thoughts on the worldwide problems, caused by the madmen pulling the strings. I went last night for the music, but came away wondering what exactly did I witness.

i'm personally fine with that, some bands go for the art angle and try to push a feeling or to make you reflect, and in fairness they were always going to do that with what's going on in the world. Others see it differently, 2 of my mates were pretty raging they paid for that. Musically though, i thought it was excellent.
 
Massive Attack, Co-op Arena, 5th June. 4/5

When a gig provokes anger, boredom, (limited) joy, frustration, and - crucially - discussion well into the following days, you know you've attended something that won't be simply forgotten in the annals of gig going.

There is always a debate on what people think a 'gig' should be - albums lovingly (slavishly?) reproduced for adoring paying fans, artistic interpretation of classics, messaging platforms, social gatherings and constructs, joyful outpourings of song and dance in a tough world and more - but Massive Attack certainly went on the attack at the Co-op with an unrelentingly painful message of the current state of global affairs.

To the ire of many - a steady trickle of fans were leaving the co-op from 40 mins onwards (including 2 of our group of 7) - Massive Attack started with climate change speeches and then spent 100 minutes of MK-Ultra-esque messaging on war, corruption, social media brainwashing, conpsiracies and more. For 45 minutes I missed a lot of the music, which tended towards lesser known tracks from Mezzanine, Heligoland and strange covers of Jeff Buckley and Ultravox, as i was brain dumped endless misery on Gaza and Israel.

Much like the Bob Dylan debate, I am of the opinion no band should simply do as the paying crowd demands, they are their own artists who can do exactly as they please as long as the can take the debate/backlash, and so going down this path was their choice. Massive Attack have never shied from controversy in this manner, but even I was slightly taken aback at the unrelenting and slightly torturous nature of the visuals. I think in there resided a point.

My patience and, dare I say, appetite for this sort of artistic license is pretty deep but even i was left feeling a little miffed when, finally, Unfinished Symphony rolled out to zero video background to heighten the musical experience but i was feeling a little hollow and couldn't properly appreciate finally seeing one of my favourite all time songs live. It took Karmacoma to settle and Teardrop was delivered with utter perfection. In fact, away from the visual assault, the music, and in particular the vocals (Horace Andy, Deborah Miller & Elizabeth Fraser), were top notch throughout.

I left feeling i'd seen something. My criticism would be that while messaging and awareness raising are very important, and Massive Attack have form, this was a gig without much hope or joy. Comparing it to Ezra Collective of 2 months earlier felt like polar opposites. Also the visuals did detract from the music, without doubt. There's a place for everything in art, and many will be disgruntled with shelling out £60 for that, but you couldn't deny they did something.

Sounds brilliant. Thanks for a great write-up.

I like it when bands plough their own furrow. I remember seeing Smashing Pumpkins at Glastonbury when the Mellon Collie album was a worldwide smash. The crowd turned up to hear the hits, but instead SP did an hour long, continuous jam set without a single recognisable song, nor any lyrics, or audience engagement whatsoever. Every now and then they’d tease the intro to some well-known song, but pull it back the second the crowd recognised it. By the end they’d alienated almost the entire main-stage audience. To this day I can’t make my mind up as to whether it was one of the most arrogant, or brilliant things I’ve ever seen. And that’s a great thing.
 
The big screen must have broken down during these songs, heh...



 
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Massive Attack, Co-op Arena, 5th June. 4/5

When a gig provokes anger, boredom, (limited) joy, frustration, and - crucially - discussion well into the following days, you know you've attended something that won't be simply forgotten in the annals of gig going.

There is always a debate on what people think a 'gig' should be - albums lovingly (slavishly?) reproduced for adoring paying fans, artistic interpretation of classics, messaging platforms, social gatherings and constructs, joyful outpourings of song and dance in a tough world and more - but Massive Attack certainly went on the attack at the Co-op with an unrelentingly painful message of the current state of global affairs.

To the ire of many - a steady trickle of fans were leaving the co-op from 40 mins onwards (including 2 of our group of 7) - Massive Attack started with climate change speeches and then spent 100 minutes of MK-Ultra-esque messaging on war, corruption, social media brainwashing, conpsiracies and more. For 45 minutes I missed a lot of the music, which tended towards lesser known tracks from Mezzanine, Heligoland and strange covers of Jeff Buckley and Ultravox, as i was brain dumped endless misery on Gaza and Israel.

Much like the Bob Dylan debate, I am of the opinion no band should simply do as the paying crowd demands, they are their own artists who can do exactly as they please as long as the can take the debate/backlash, and so going down this path was their choice. Massive Attack have never shied from controversy in this manner, but even I was slightly taken aback at the unrelenting and slightly torturous nature of the visuals. I think in there resided a point.

My patience and, dare I say, appetite for this sort of artistic license is pretty deep but even i was left feeling a little miffed when, finally, Unfinished Symphony rolled out to zero video background to heighten the musical experience but i was feeling a little hollow and couldn't properly appreciate finally seeing one of my favourite all time songs live. It took Karmacoma to settle and Teardrop was delivered with utter perfection. In fact, away from the visual assault, the music, and in particular the vocals (Horace Andy, Deborah Miller & Elizabeth Fraser), were top notch throughout.

I left feeling i'd seen something. My criticism would be that while messaging and awareness raising are very important, and Massive Attack have form, this was a gig without much hope or joy. Comparing it to Ezra Collective of 2 months earlier felt like polar opposites. Also the visuals did detract from the music, without doubt. There's a place for everything in art, and many will be disgruntled with shelling out £60 for that, but you couldn't deny they did something.
Excellent review that pretty much nails it for me.
''TURN IT UP..''
 
Massive Attack, Co-op Arena, 5th June. 4/5

When a gig provokes anger, boredom, (limited) joy, frustration, and - crucially - discussion well into the following days, you know you've attended something that won't be simply forgotten in the annals of gig going.

There is always a debate on what people think a 'gig' should be - albums lovingly (slavishly?) reproduced for adoring paying fans, artistic interpretation of classics, messaging platforms, social gatherings and constructs, joyful outpourings of song and dance in a tough world and more - but Massive Attack certainly went on the attack at the Co-op with an unrelentingly painful message of the current state of global affairs.

To the ire of many - a steady trickle of fans were leaving the co-op from 40 mins onwards (including 2 of our group of 7) - Massive Attack started with climate change speeches and then spent 100 minutes of MK-Ultra-esque messaging on war, corruption, social media brainwashing, conpsiracies and more. For 45 minutes I missed a lot of the music, which tended towards lesser known tracks from Mezzanine, Heligoland and strange covers of Jeff Buckley and Ultravox, as i was brain dumped endless misery on Gaza and Israel.

Much like the Bob Dylan debate, I am of the opinion no band should simply do as the paying crowd demands, they are their own artists who can do exactly as they please as long as the can take the debate/backlash, and so going down this path was their choice. Massive Attack have never shied from controversy in this manner, but even I was slightly taken aback at the unrelenting and slightly torturous nature of the visuals. I think in there resided a point.

My patience and, dare I say, appetite for this sort of artistic license is pretty deep but even i was left feeling a little miffed when, finally, Unfinished Symphony rolled out to zero video background to heighten the musical experience but i was feeling a little hollow and couldn't properly appreciate finally seeing one of my favourite all time songs live. It took Karmacoma to settle and Teardrop was delivered with utter perfection. In fact, away from the visual assault, the music, and in particular the vocals (Horace Andy, Deborah Miller & Elizabeth Fraser), were top notch throughout.

I left feeling i'd seen something. My criticism would be that while messaging and awareness raising are very important, and Massive Attack have form, this was a gig without much hope or joy. Comparing it to Ezra Collective of 2 months earlier felt like polar opposites. Also the visuals did detract from the music, without doubt. There's a place for everything in art, and many will be disgruntled with shelling out £60 for that, but you couldn't deny they did something.

Did Liz sing on many songs?
 
Just got tickets for Beethoven’s 9th at the Grand Teton music festival. Haven’t been for a couple of years but this is my favorite Beethoven. Gonna get all Drooged up, in one way or another
 
Wedding Present tonight were fantastic. Played Bizarro in its entirety (it’s 35 years old, fucking hell) along with other assorted ‘hits’.
Only downside was David Gedge responding to a question from the crowd and saying he was a rag. Had a chat with him afterwards - he’s a decent bloke otherwise.
Seen WP loads of times and have never come away disappointed, I remember after a gig in Kendal asking David Gedge to play in Wigan, he just laughed.
 
Sam Fender playing Saint James’ tonight and Saturday (no pun). Last time out the crowd and show looked mega, should be again.
 
Looking forward to seeing Judith Hill in September. She was America's highest paid backing singer and part of the touring bands (keys/guitar/vocals) for Prince and Michael Jackson. A huge talent, backed by her father on bass and her mum on keys.

 
Sounds brilliant. Thanks for a great write-up.

I like it when bands plough their own furrow. I remember seeing Smashing Pumpkins at Glastonbury when the Mellon Collie album was a worldwide smash. The crowd turned up to hear the hits, but instead SP did an hour long, continuous jam set without a single recognisable song, nor any lyrics, or audience engagement whatsoever. Every now and then they’d tease the intro to some well-known song, but pull it back the second the crowd recognised it. By the end they’d alienated almost the entire main-stage audience. To this day I can’t make my mind up as to whether it was one of the most arrogant, or brilliant things I’ve ever seen. And that’s a great thing.
Takes balls to do it knowing how unpopular it will make them to the punters.

Brilliant and arrogance in pretty equal measure?

I wish more bands would refer to their back catalogue instead of sticking to the crowd pleasers.

It would drive me mental if I was the one on stage and there was only a handful of songs the crowd wante to hear. I wouldn't play them out of stubbornness...........
 
Sam Fender playing Saint James’ tonight and Saturday (no pun). Last time out the crowd and show looked mega, should be again.
Great singer. Saw him support The Killers a few years ago. When The Killers came on some one was stood next to me in the aisle and it was Sam with the rest of his band. Security moved them on as they didn't have a seat!

Bought all of his output since hearing Hypersonic Missiles on XS Manchester on release.
 
Sam Fender playing Saint James’ tonight and Saturday (no pun). Last time out the crowd and show looked mega, should be again.
I went 2 years ago when my friends son couldn't make it. Probably 1 of the most boring days of my life. Just don't get the fuss about him at all. He does, however, seem a really genuine guy who does a lot for his local community.
Watching our local news last night do you have to wear a Newcastle top to attend the gig. They also ran a story about a local fashion designer who had been contacted by Sams stylist team to design a jacket for him. Then went onto say his style team consisted of 20 people. Really, you need 20 people to dress you.
 
im going to Sam Fender on Sunday at St James's Park, unsure what to expect really. I've been dealt a rough hand as the gig was perfect for us; War on Drugs in support for me (one of my favourite bands) and Sam Fender for my wife, she loves him. War on Drugs cancelled a couple of weeks ago :(
 
im going to Sam Fender on Sunday at St James's Park, unsure what to expect really. I've been dealt a rough hand as the gig was perfect for us; War on Drugs in support for me (one of my favourite bands) and Sam Fender for my wife, she loves him. War on Drugs cancelled a couple of weeks ago :(
Will be interesting to see what you'll think of the gig, as last night there were thousands in their Black & White/Wor Sam outfits.
Appreciate that The War on Drugs pulling out is a big loss.
But, I personally enjoy both Olivia Dean & CMAT, who are now supporting, both are well worth seeing.
My mate's band are opening the gig - Hector Gannet, who are also excellent.
Have a great time...
 
Will be interesting to see what you'll think of the gig, as last night there were thousands in their Black & White/Wor Sam outfits.
Appreciate that The War on Drugs pulling out is a big loss.
But, I personally enjoy both Olivia Dean & CMAT, who are now supporting, both are well worth seeing.
My mate's band are opening the gig - Hector Gannet, who are also excellent.
Have a great time...
I dont know Hector Gannet, so i shall go and see what they're (he?) are like. Cheers, we'll have a grand time despite WOD pulling out.
 
Sam Fender, St James' Park, Newcastle. 8/10.

I went to Newcastle on Sunday to watch CMAT, Olivia Dean and Sam Fender at a packed to the rafters St James' Park. I'm not a stadium gig fan - my previous two experiences at Wembley and Old Trafford Cricket were bordering on disastrous - but my partner loves Sam Fender and i love the originally billed War on Drugs, so it was worth a risk for a big day out.

Despite the disappointment (previous post!) of War on Drugs cancelling, the gig, and generally the day out in the Toon, was a massive success. CMAT was, as ever, great fun - high energy pop that was delivered very well and translated well to the stadium setting. Her energy is infectious and had a slowly filling audience up and dancing. Olivia Dean, for me, just didnt suit a stadium setting. She's not my scene and i thought it was very average, but she certainly drew a crowd. Anyway, the main event Sam Fender was a big success. Again, he is an artist i did not envisage myself going to see but he did excellently in a stadium setting, whipping up a home crowd of 50k+ into a passionate frenzy (even bringing on Dan Burn with the Carabao cup, bizarrely).

Fender is passionately Geordie, which is fine by me as he doesn't apologise or hide his upbringing. His music, some of the most 80s/90s Springsteen-esque rock you will come across in today's music scene, is a mix of straight up rock mixed with emotive subject matter. Therefore the big brash rock sound works for a stadium. But not every song came across well, his catalogue has more nuanced stuff that didnt work so well, but overall this was a highly enjoyable gig with a blockbuster ending with fireworks and all the trappings. He has worked a lot on the local boy gone big, he's done excellently from it and fair play to him, as I think he seems like a genuine lad. This was definitely a gig that falls into that magical live music category of "wouldn't usually go to this sort of thing but it was great live".

It also marked my first trip to St James' Park which, coupled with the big day out in Newcastle (and beers after the gig), was a marvellous day out indeed.
 
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