Given Questions Mancini's Man-Management

Didsbury Dave said:
Colins Bellend said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Some of you need to wake up and smell the fucking coffee.
Ex players in the main.
If they're not good enough for the team and they dont want to be a squad member then Fuck off get your first team football but quit the sniping

Practically every player who has left the club has made the same comments. Players within the club have made the same comments - it's often what starts these fallouts with players who then get shipped out. We've got an existing international superstar who feels the same way too. TO dismiss these repeated comments as "sour grapes" is ludicrous, bearing in mind players leave clubs all over the world all the time, and they don't all make the same comments.

It's obvious to a blind man living in a cave in the mountains of nepal that Mancini has a hands-off, aloof management style which is the opposite to the inclusive style of most top managers.

Maybe, just maybe, he can have more success at City with that style. Maybe he's even improved it. But I don't like it, never will.

All these people quoting Ferguson are talking rubbish. Ferguson's players respect him and fear his wrath, but he also manages them all as individuals and they will get the "arm round the shoulder" when necessary. That's good people management.

Do you seriously think Given would still be at City if Mancini put an arm round him and told him he was a great 'keeper and a great guy and a valuable squad member? Given was second best and wouldn't (rightly) settle for it so moved on. Bellamy couldn't (wouldn't) train in Mancini's way, Ade became a lazy sod and couldn't be bothered etc, etc.

I posted this earlier but you didn't respond:

I like the way he's managing our staff. He deals with troublemakers and gets them out of the Club. He has got us playing fantastic football at times and scoring goals for fun. We are one goal off the top of the league in a season where, bar two or three, it would be the best start ever - it is, however, still City's best start... ever.

Imho, you give too much weight to disgruntled ex-players who have an axe to grind.

Anyone who has left the Club under Mancini's reign that you would still rather have here DD? Even though they weren't happy here? Some people (players) simply can't be managed - that's why they are journeymen going from club to club. 'Arry is even having to 'threaten' Van der Vaart to keep him in line.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Colins Bellend said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Some of you need to wake up and smell the fucking coffee.
Ex players in the main.
If they're not good enough for the team and they dont want to be a squad member then Fuck off get your first team football but quit the sniping

Practically every player who has left the club has made the same comments. Players within the club have made the same comments - it's often what starts these fallouts with players who then get shipped out. We've got an existing international superstar who feels the same way too. TO dismiss these repeated comments as "sour grapes" is ludicrous, bearing in mind players leave clubs all over the world all the time, and they don't all make the same comments.

It's obvious to a blind man living in a cave in the mountains of nepal that Mancini has a hands-off, aloof management style which is the opposite to the inclusive style of most top managers.

Maybe, just maybe, he can have more success at City with that style. Maybe he's even improved it. But I don't like it, never will.

All these people quoting Ferguson are talking rubbish. Ferguson's players respect him and fear his wrath, but he also manages them all as individuals and they will get the "arm round the shoulder" when necessary. That's good people management.

Have you read my post?
 
Let me help you then Shay if Bobby was not clear enough:-

Joe Hart is younger than you
Joe Hart is not shit scared of crosses
Joe Hart's shoulder is not and was not fucked
Oh and Joe Hart is a better keeper than you

Is that clear enough? Now shut the fuck up eh Shay?
 
nijinskybell said:
Didsbury Dave said:
bobmcfc said:
i think you need to elaborate DD exactly what has mancini done and to which staff ?

You've obviously been living in that cave in the mountains of nepal I referred to.

Cop out answer.

The lone voice in the wilderness not feeling quite as smug any more.

For the record I'm not talking about CT.
 
Mancini's style is getting the job done is it not ?. there will always be players with bigger egos that will not tow the line.Lets also not forget the 25 man squad rules, now we have less room in the squad for those that just don't cut the mustard.
 
Some over-reactions here. Given has merely made a comment on RM's management style and it's hardly a bolt from the blue. We already know that's his style and it suits some players and situations but not others.

I've worked for all sorts of managers in business over the years and you perform better for some than others. Same with the teachers at school.

There's no doubt that the managers who get the best out of their squads are the ones where it's clear they are the boss and not to be messed with but also know when to adapt their approach depending on circumstances.

In that context it was interesting to read about the Mancini/Tevez meeting as it maybe indicates RM isn't the out-and-out hardman he's often portrayed as.
 
The Future's Blue said:
So, on the man-management issue, who believes that this is one of Mancini's qualities?

I'll raise my hand here. The man has the courage of his convictions and the spine to stand up to his critics, when his vision of how his side should play is challenged.

It is his side, come along or be left behind regardless of egos and prima donnas.

So a few ex-players now missing out on our success have realised what they have lost out on and make some noise, honestly who gives a toss.
 
Mikecini said:
The Future's Blue said:
So, on the man-management issue, who believes that this is one of Mancini's qualities?

I'll raise my hand here. The man has the courage of his convictions and the spine to stand up to his critics, when his vision of how his side should play is challenged.

It is his side, come along or be left behind regardless of egos and prima donnas.

So a few ex-players now missing out on our success have realised what they have lost out on and make some noise, honestly who gives a toss.


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