God

[tonea2003]

the point i made earlier in the thread, go back only 100 years and there would be nowhere near the amount of names.

-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:53 am --



the question would be if they were all alive today would they all believe in god i doubt it.
darwin was struggling back then.

There is still large amounts of creationist scientists. Denial of this just proves you would only read what suits you.

i have never said there wasn't, i am saying with a greater understanding comes a greater realisation

 

[Jimma]

There is still large amounts of creationist scientists. Denial of this just proves you would only read what suits you.

i have never said there wasn't, i am saying with a greater understanding comes a greater realisation

so your saying whether [x] amount of scientists isn more then [y] number of scientists dictates whether something is true?

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

I think we all can agree that everything written in books are either facts or fiction, facts are something that have been proven such as the Earth's environment contains an air based substance called oxygen which we need to live, simple yet proven true so there for a fact.

Fiction is something we see as make believe or only so as there is no proof to back fiction such as the world will end in 2012 the Myherns (spelling) predicted this but had no evidential facts to back their prediction, so we see this fictional based.

Simple conclusion is

Science = FACT

God = FICTION

 

[Jimma]

I think we all can agree that everything written in books are either facts or fiction, facts are something that have been proven such as the Earth's surface contains an air based substance called oxygen which we need to live, simple yet proven true so there for a fact.

Fiction is something we see as make believe or only so as there is no proof to back fiction such as the world will end in 2012 the Myherns (spelling) predicted this but had no evidential facts to back their prediction, so we see this fictional based.

Simple conclusion is

Science = FACT

God = FICTION

To quote Einstein

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

I believe science supports creationist theory.

Im not sure what premise you are using to say that God IS fiction (is highlighted because you have portrayed it as fact on the matter without any backing)

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

I think we all can agree that everything written in books are either facts or fiction, facts are something that have been proven such as the Earth's surface contains an air based substance called oxygen which we need to live, simple yet proven true so there for a fact.

Fiction is something we see as make believe or only so as there is no proof to back fiction such as the world will end in 2012 the Myherns (spelling) predicted this but had no evidential facts to back their prediction, so we see this fictional based.

Simple conclusion is

Science = FACT

God = FICTION

To quote Einstein

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

I believe science supports creationist theory.

Im not sure what premise you are using to say that God IS fiction (is highlighted because you have portrayed it as fact on the matter without any backing)

Well the bible is said to be a book written about facts about God, Christ ect. but to this day there is no evidence that such people excisted, surely if I was to come on to this forum and claim I've turned water into wine and walked across water I would surely be seen as a nut case, but written in a book about before our time and its seen as completely acceptable.

People often say its because Christ was Gods child but from what I'm led to believe about religion is that we're all God's children????

 

[Ally.P]

Jesus Christ Himself was a manifestation of God, the Divine made flesh to enable humanity to be aware of a unique relationship with God. Prior to His Coming, God had been incomprehensible to humans beyond the capacity of our perception and understanding. Through the birth of Christ, humanity was given an overt expression of God's reality in human terms. Christ is not seen as a separate entity, but as reflective of the multiple consciousness that is the oneness of God. There are not three divine beings comprising the trinity, but one Divine Nature in which the three aspects of God are present. Nor did Christ come to redeem us from original sin. Rather, His mission was that of revealing the nature and reality of the spiritual life, and to provide a living example of it.

This is my 'faith' regarding Jesus.

Are you saying that the OT is bollocks, and that non Christians are worshipping a false god?

And that prior to Jesus nobody could understand this....

This kind of explains to me why bad things happen, not natural things like earthquakes etc, but bad actions by people. God is Love and so gives us complete Free Will.

Without free will in spiritual things the human being can in no wise advance into light, i.e., into truths and goods of the church, or procure himself a life. Without that free will he would not be a human being but only a figure and a phantom. For his thought would be without reflection, consequently without judgment and thus in Divine things which are of the Church he would have no more ability to turn than a door without a hinge, or with one fastened with a bolt of steel. His will, too, would be devoid of decision, hence no more active towards justice or injustice than the stone on the mound under which lies a dead body...." (Coronis, 24 28)

Well I'm not surprised. Sorry pal but you sound a little confused to me.

Of course not. I used these passages bc I didnt have time last night to write my own and I am not half as eloquent as a lot of the posters on here. I will explain more laters.

 

[tonea2003]

i have never said there wasn't, i am saying with a greater understanding comes a greater realisation

so your saying whether [x] amount of scientists isn more then [y] number of scientists dictates whether something is true?

jimma you are trying to put words in my mouth
i am saying there is rise in people who know think there maybe nothing spritual
and we are what we are due to a greater understanding of the world we live in.

 

[Jimma]

so your saying whether [x] amount of scientists isn more then [y] number of scientists dictates whether something is true?

jimma you are trying to put words in my mouth
i am saying there is rise in people who know think there maybe nothing spritual
and we are what we are due to a greater understanding of the world we live in.

no, not at all mate, just making sure we all know that theres plenty of things the 'scientists' have been mistaken about in the past.

sorry if you took it the wrong way mate. we are all blues here.

 

[BulgarianPride]

I think we all can agree that everything written in books are either facts or fiction, facts are something that have been proven such as the Earth's environment contains an air based substance called oxygen which we need to live, simple yet proven true so there for a fact.

Fiction is something we see as make believe or only so as there is no proof to back fiction such as the world will end in 2012 the Myherns (spelling) predicted this but had no evidential facts to back their prediction, so we see this fictional based.

Simple conclusion is

Science = FACT

God = FICTION

The Mayans? They did have "prove" to back their evidence. Their calender ends at that time, and it begins. Sort of like 31 of January. The Mayan calendar was created so they can keep track of how long the world had existed and some believe it was a count down to Armageddon. Their calender is rather remarkably accurate.The 2012 end of the world is Hollywood fiction, it has nothing do with the Mayans, except that the Mayan Calender ends on that date( happy new Mayan year :) ).

-- Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:21 pm --

so your saying whether [x] amount of scientists isn more then [y] number of scientists dictates whether something is true?

jimma you are trying to put words in my mouth
i am saying there is rise in people who know think there maybe nothing spritual
and we are what we are due to a greater understanding of the world we live in.

Yes but the more information we gather, the more the "creator" pops in .

 

[Bigga]

so your saying whether [x] amount of scientists isn more then [y] number of scientists dictates whether something is true?

jimma you are trying to put words in my mouth
i am saying there is rise in people who know think there maybe nothing spritual
and we are what we are due to a greater understanding of the world we live in.

Again, I'd like you to prove that there is a 'rise' amongst scientists that believe there is no God. You seem to continue to pluck things out of the air and yet, you're all about 'evidence'!

How does that irony taste?