AC1DK1LLA
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Jimma
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AC1DK1LLA said:Jimma said:For every argument, there is a counter argument.
I think for an atheist to say that religion is impossible is completely ignorant. Some of the greatest minds of all time have been creationists (Newton, Keplar, Boyle, Einstein, just to name a few).
back then you werent not alowed to believe in God?
I hate to sound like a jerk but you havent done to much reading have you?
although belief in God was alot more popular, Einstein came up against alot of backlash for his beliefs, hence his comments after his telescope incident with Hubble and theory of the expanding universe.
however, as previously stated im not here to argue, so im not going to.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:48 pm --<br /><br />also acidkilla, the case for a creator is stronger today than ever before.
if you honestly think less than 1% believe in a creator your very mistaken.
AC1DK1LLA
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I'm not arguing with you chill, I was just saying. Thats why I said greatest minds. Probley not a good idea commenting on this thread I'm gonna leave it to you guys.Jimma said:
back then you werent not alowed to believe in God?
I hate to sound like a jerk but you havent done to much reading have you?
although belief in God was alot more popular, Einstein came up against alot of backlash for his beliefs, hence his comments after his telescope incident with Hubble and theory of the expanding universe.
however, as previously stated im not here to argue, so im not going to.
-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:48 pm --
also acidkilla, the case for a creator is stronger today than ever before.
if you honestly think less than 1% believe in a creator your very mistaken.
BulgarianPride
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AC1DK1LLA said:I'm not arguing with you chill, I was just saying. Thats why I said greatest minds. Probley not a good idea commenting on this thread I'm gonna leave it to you guys.Jimma said:back then you werent not alowed to believe in God?
I hate to sound like a jerk but you havent done to much reading have you?
although belief in God was alot more popular, Einstein came up against alot of backlash for his beliefs, hence his comments after his telescope incident with Hubble and theory of the expanding universe.
however, as previously stated im not here to argue, so im not going to.
-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:48 pm --
also acidkilla, the case for a creator is stronger today than ever before.
if you honestly think less than 1% believe in a creator your very mistaken.
Can you actually name a few "greatest minds" that do not believe in god? (Stephen Hawkings does not count)
I work/study with brilliant minds everyday. Most of them do believe in god, and are from various religion groups.
BulgarianPride said:AC1DK1LLA said:I'm not arguing with you chill, I was just saying. Thats why I said greatest minds. Probley not a good idea commenting on this thread I'm gonna leave it to you guys.
Can you actually name a few "greatest minds" that do not believe in god? (Stephen Hawkings does not count)
I work/study with brilliant minds everyday. Most of them do believe in god, and are from various religion groups.
just to be going on with
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page</a>
also i notice you seemed to have ignored my reply to your bus incident
-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:43 am --
Bigga said:C1TY4LIFE said:well on that note how did god start from Nothing??? the universe was just a build up of rocks flying through space, space which is nothing, nothing is technically space, therefore space already exists from nothing.
Science has proven to work on a lot of things science cures dieseaes and illness, for example S.T.I's if you contract an S.T.I pray to god to cure your infection I can bet you'll be waiting along time, Science comes along boom a few antibiatoics its gone.
All I'm saying is that Science on a number amount of times has proven that exists and that its a huge success there is still yet any evidence that god's exsistance is true let alone that he created the universe.
Science needs the solid existence of SOMETHING in order conduct an experiment. All other actions are built upon theories which can be dis-proven many times.
One can say God is a theory. How do you disprove the theory when there is nothing solid to prove or disprove?
Many scientist swear blind on/ by their theories and build up masses of followers. All this built on THEORY!! I asked, once on this board, what is the difference then between science and religion when looked at from this point of view?
The answer, that science can work to test the theories. One cannot work towards the science of String Theory because science does not have the means to test it, just yet.
So, if that's the case, when will they have the means to test the 'theory'of God...??
ElanJo said:13 pages and no-one has defined God lol
Nobody is dumb enough to 'define' God. He is not an object. She is not a substance.
We are more than the sum of our parts.
why not? if it/he/she exists than it can be defined
Jimma
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tonea2003 said:BulgarianPride said:Can you actually name a few "greatest minds" that do not believe in god? (Stephen Hawkings does not count)
I work/study with brilliant minds everyday. Most of them do believe in god, and are from various religion groups.
just to be going on with
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page</a>
Theres brilliant minds on either side of the argument, thats a fact, i dont deny that at all.
BulgarianPride
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Another list. Check out the names of some of these bad boys...
Here is a free ebook that lists this guys and more. It has their quotes as well.
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I can top that by giving you this a list of very famous scientist and some other famous guys(science wise). All noble price winners.tonea2003 said:BulgarianPride said:Can you actually name a few "greatest minds" that do not believe in god? (Stephen Hawkings does not count)
I work/study with brilliant minds everyday. Most of them do believe in god, and are from various religion groups.
just to be going on with
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page</a>
1. Albert EINSTEIN – Nobel Laureate in Physics
2. Max PLANCK – Nobel Laureate in Physics
3. Erwin SCHROEDINGER – Nobel Laureate in Physics
4. Werner HEISENBERG – Nobel Laureate in Physics
5. Robert MILLIKAN – Nobel Laureate in Physics
6. Charles TOWNES – Nobel Laureate in Physics
7. Arthur SCHAWLOW – Nobel Laureate in Physics
8. William PHILLIPS – Nobel Laureate in Physics
9. William BRAGG – Nobel Laureate in Physics
10. Guglielmo MARCONI – Nobel Laureate in Physics
11. Arthur COMPTON – Nobel Laureate in Physics
12. Arno PENZIAS – Nobel Laureate in Physics
13. Nevill MOTT – Nobel Laureate in Physics
14. Isidor Isaac RABI – Nobel Laureate in Physics
15. Abdus SALAM – Nobel Laureate in Physics
16. Antony HEWISH – Nobel Laureate in Physics
17. Joseph H. TAYLOR, Jr. – Nobel Laureate in Physics
18. Alexis CARREL – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
19. John ECCLES – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
20. Joseph MURRAY – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
21. Ernst CHAIN – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
22. George WALD – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
23. Ronald ROSS – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
24. Derek BARTON – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
25. Christian ANFINSEN – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
26. Walter KOHN – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
27. Richard SMALLEY – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
Another list. Check out the names of some of these bad boys...
1. Isaac NEWTON – founder of Classical Physics and Infinitesimal Calculus
2. Galileo GALILEI – founder of Experimental Physics
3. Nicolaus COPERNICUS – founder of Heliocentric Cosmology
4. Johannes KEPLER – founder of Physical Astronomy and Modern Optics
5. Francis BACON – founder of the scientific inductive method
6. Rene DESCARTES – founder of Analytical Geometry and Modern Philosophy
7. Blaise PASCAL – founder of Hydrostatics, Hydrodynamics, and the Theory of Probabilities
8. Michael FARADAY – founder of Electronics and Electro-magnetics
9. James Clerk MAXWELL – founder of Statistical Thermodynamics
10. Lord KELVIN – founder of Thermodynamics and Energetics
11. Robert BOYLE – founder of Modern Chemistry
12. William HARVEY – founder of Modern Medicine
13. John RAY – founder of Modern Biology and Natural History
14. Gottfried Wilhelm LEIBNIZ – German mathematician and philosopher, founder of Infinitesimal Calculus
15. Charles DARWIN – founder of the Theory of Evolution
16. Ernst HAECKEL – German biologist, the most influential evolutionist in continental Europe
17. Thomas H. HUXLEY – English biologist and evolutionist, famous as “Darwin’s bulldog”
18. Joseph J. THOMSON – Nobel Laureate in Physics, discoverer of the electron, founder of atomic physics
19. Louis PASTEUR – founder of Microbiology and Immunology
20. Wernher von BRAUN – rocket engineer, founder of Astronautics
21. Francis COLLINS – Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute
Here is a free ebook that lists this guys and more. It has their quotes as well.
<a class="postlink" href="http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/50-nobelists.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuilderc ... elists.pdf</a>
Jimma said:tonea2003 said:just to be going on with
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page</a>
Theres brilliant minds on either side of the argument, thats a fact, i dont deny that at all.
the point i made earlier in the thread, go back only 100 years and there would be nowhere near the amount of names.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:53 am --<br /><br />
BulgarianPride said:II can top that by giving you this a list of very famous scientist and some other famous guys(science wise). All noble price winners.tonea2003 said:just to be going on with
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page</a>
1. Albert EINSTEIN – Nobel Laureate in Physics
2. Max PLANCK – Nobel Laureate in Physics
3. Erwin SCHROEDINGER – Nobel Laureate in Physics
4. Werner HEISENBERG – Nobel Laureate in Physics
5. Robert MILLIKAN – Nobel Laureate in Physics
6. Charles TOWNES – Nobel Laureate in Physics
7. Arthur SCHAWLOW – Nobel Laureate in Physics
8. William PHILLIPS – Nobel Laureate in Physics
9. William BRAGG – Nobel Laureate in Physics
10. Guglielmo MARCONI – Nobel Laureate in Physics
11. Arthur COMPTON – Nobel Laureate in Physics
12. Arno PENZIAS – Nobel Laureate in Physics
13. Nevill MOTT – Nobel Laureate in Physics
14. Isidor Isaac RABI – Nobel Laureate in Physics
15. Abdus SALAM – Nobel Laureate in Physics
16. Antony HEWISH – Nobel Laureate in Physics
17. Joseph H. TAYLOR, Jr. – Nobel Laureate in Physics
18. Alexis CARREL – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
19. John ECCLES – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
20. Joseph MURRAY – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
21. Ernst CHAIN – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
22. George WALD – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
23. Ronald ROSS – Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology
24. Derek BARTON – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
25. Christian ANFINSEN – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
26. Walter KOHN – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
27. Richard SMALLEY – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry
Another list. Check out the names of some of these bad boys...
1. Isaac NEWTON – founder of Classical Physics and Infinitesimal Calculus
2. Galileo GALILEI – founder of Experimental Physics
3. Nicolaus COPERNICUS – founder of Heliocentric Cosmology
4. Johannes KEPLER – founder of Physical Astronomy and Modern Optics
5. Francis BACON – founder of the scientific inductive method
6. Rene DESCARTES – founder of Analytical Geometry and Modern Philosophy
7. Blaise PASCAL – founder of Hydrostatics, Hydrodynamics, and the Theory of Probabilities
8. Michael FARADAY – founder of Electronics and Electro-magnetics
9. James Clerk MAXWELL – founder of Statistical Thermodynamics
10. Lord KELVIN – founder of Thermodynamics and Energetics
11. Robert BOYLE – founder of Modern Chemistry
12. William HARVEY – founder of Modern Medicine
13. John RAY – founder of Modern Biology and Natural History
14. Gottfried Wilhelm LEIBNIZ – German mathematician and philosopher, founder of Infinitesimal Calculus
15. Charles DARWIN – founder of the Theory of Evolution
16. Ernst HAECKEL – German biologist, the most influential evolutionist in continental Europe
17. Thomas H. HUXLEY – English biologist and evolutionist, famous as “Darwin’s bulldog”
18. Joseph J. THOMSON – Nobel Laureate in Physics, discoverer of the electron, founder of atomic physics
19. Louis PASTEUR – founder of Microbiology and Immunology
20. Wernher von BRAUN – rocket engineer, founder of Astronautics
21. Francis COLLINS – Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute
Here is a free ebook that lists this guys and more. It has their quotes as well.
<a class="postlink" href="http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/50-nobelists.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuilderc ... elists.pdf</a>
the question would be if they were all alive today would they all believe in god i doubt it.
darwin was struggling back then.
BulgarianPride
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tonea2003 said:BulgarianPride said:Can you actually name a few "greatest minds" that do not believe in god? (Stephen Hawkings does not count)
I work/study with brilliant minds everyday. Most of them do believe in god, and are from various religion groups.
just to be going on with
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Main_Page</a>
also i notice you seemed to have ignored my reply to your bus incident
-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:43 am --
Bigga said:Science needs the solid existence of SOMETHING in order conduct an experiment. All other actions are built upon theories which can be dis-proven many times.
One can say God is a theory. How do you disprove the theory when there is nothing solid to prove or disprove?
Many scientist swear blind on/ by their theories and build up masses of followers. All this built on THEORY!! I asked, once on this board, what is the difference then between science and religion when looked at from this point of view?
The answer, that science can work to test the theories. One cannot work towards the science of String Theory because science does not have the means to test it, just yet.
So, if that's the case, when will they have the means to test the 'theory'of God...??
Nobody is dumb enough to 'define' God. He is not an object. She is not a substance.
We are more than the sum of our parts.
why not? if it/he/she exists than it can be defined
I did not ignore it. I was in school and forgot to reply.. Sorry.
God did not cause me getting hit buy the bus. It was me jumping out on the street when i wasn't sure if there were any cars around. I do believe that if it wasn't for god, i wouldn't be here today. If you want more details pm me, I can share more.
-- Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:58 pm --
tonea2003 said:Jimma said:Theres brilliant minds on either side of the argument, thats a fact, i dont deny that at all.
the point i made earlier in the thread, go back only 100 years and there would be nowhere near the amount of names.
-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:53 am --
BulgarianPride said:I
I can top that by giving you this a list of very famous scientist and some other famous guys(science wise). All noble price winners.
Another list. Check out the names of some of these bad boys...
Here is a free ebook that lists this guys and more. It has their quotes as well.
<a class="postlink" href="http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/50-nobelists.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuilderc ... elists.pdf</a>
the question would be if they were all alive today would they all believe in god i doubt it.
darwin was struggling back then.
Yes they would. :) can't disprove me there :) .
By the way, because of most of these guys we can enjoy our high technology life styles.
You know what strikes me as big coincidence?
The author of that book is Bulgarian... Hehe :)
Jimma
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tonea2003 said:Jimma said:Theres brilliant minds on either side of the argument, thats a fact, i dont deny that at all.
the point i made earlier in the thread, go back only 100 years and there would be nowhere near the amount of names.
-- Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:53 am --
BulgarianPride said:I
I can top that by giving you this a list of very famous scientist and some other famous guys(science wise). All noble price winners.
Another list. Check out the names of some of these bad boys...
Here is a free ebook that lists this guys and more. It has their quotes as well.
<a class="postlink" href="http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/50-nobelists.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://nobelist.tripod.com/sitebuilderc ... elists.pdf</a>
the question would be if they were all alive today would they all believe in god i doubt it.
darwin was struggling back then.
There is still large amounts of creationist scientists. Denial of this just proves you would only read what suits you.