Government loses Abu Qatada appeal

Bovril said:
This subject as Rascal etc says is not at all clear cut, I ponder as I sit here in Camp Bastion surrounded by the same sort of man this terrorist is, preparing to sadly watch yet another re-patriation ceremony of a brave British soldier. We should march him through the streets of London to a firing squad and blow his brains out with Rascal just behind him !!!


Well said mate. The sad things that these brainwashed uber liberals like Rascal don't realise (and I've met him he's well meaning) that the very freedoms he loves, the freedom to think what we want, say what we want, the right to choose our sexuality, the right for females not to be sexually mutilated or made second class citizens are the very freedoms the people he likes to defend would brutally snatch away from him.
 
Just get him out, what are Europe going to do? Chuck us out? Thatcher wouldn't of stood for this, we need to get our arses into gear and do what is best for the country not what is politically correct or what some random bloke in a court in Brussels says. The guy is an arsehole and we are paying for him to be an arsehole so therefore, get him out.
 
blue81 said:
Bovril said:
This subject as Rascal etc says is not at all clear cut, I ponder as I sit here in Camp Bastion surrounded by the same sort of man this terrorist is, preparing to sadly watch yet another re-patriation ceremony of a brave British soldier. We should march him through the streets of London to a firing squad and blow his brains out with Rascal just behind him !!!


Well said mate. The sad things that these brainwashed uber liberals like Rascal don't realise (and I've met him he's well meaning) that the very freedoms he loves, the freedom to think what we want, say what we want, the right to choose our sexuality, the right for females not to be sexually mutilated or made second class citizens are the very freedoms the people he likes to defend would brutally snatch away from him.
Would your opinion be different if Abu Qutada was one of the leading intelligence sources helping us operate against those who would snatch those freedoms away?

After all, you can hardly send some public-school educated, chinless wonder to places like Beirut to wander into meetings of these people to ask "I say chaps, would you mind awfully telling me what you've got planned?"

You'd say to someone like Qutada that you'll protect him but you'd have to make it look good.
 
Skashion said:
Rascal once again keeping the right-wing nutjobs at bay by asking them to justify their opinion, which, of course, they can't.

"Qutada [sic] has impeccable traditional and modern Salafist credentials and had acted as the in-house alim to radical groups, particularly in Algeria, from his base in northwest London since 1994". In 2001, after bin Laden was criticised by a Salafist faction for issuing fatwas, he turned to Abu Qatada for support, and the support was forthcoming.

That'll do for me- have a nice trip to Jordan fella!!x
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
blue81 said:
Bovril said:
This subject as Rascal etc says is not at all clear cut, I ponder as I sit here in Camp Bastion surrounded by the same sort of man this terrorist is, preparing to sadly watch yet another re-patriation ceremony of a brave British soldier. We should march him through the streets of London to a firing squad and blow his brains out with Rascal just behind him !!!


Well said mate. The sad things that these brainwashed uber liberals like Rascal don't realise (and I've met him he's well meaning) that the very freedoms he loves, the freedom to think what we want, say what we want, the right to choose our sexuality, the right for females not to be sexually mutilated or made second class citizens are the very freedoms the people he likes to defend would brutally snatch away from him.
Would your opinion be different if Abu Qutada was one of the leading intelligence sources helping us operate against those who would snatch those freedoms away?

After all, you can hardly send some public-school educated, chinless wonder to places like Beirut to wander into meetings of these people to ask "I say chaps, would you mind awfully telling me what you've got planned?"

You'd say to someone like Qutada that you'll protect him but you'd have to make it look good.


What are you suggesting here? That the preachers of hate and terror cell supporters are actually spies? Do you not think our government would protect them in that case and not allow them to be so very publicly exposed?
 
I don't understand why this is still an issue.

We don't extradite people to places where torture is part of the criminal justice system. No exceptions. Doesn't matter how undesirable they are. That's why the Government was just refused permission to appeal.

If he has committed crimes here, by all means prosecute him, convict him, sentence him and deport him. If there's the evidence, put him before a jury. If he has committed crimes elsewhere in the world which can be brought before our courts under our law, let's get on with it.

In the absence of that, we can't start ignoring our own laws and freedoms just because they sometimes produce results we don't like.
 
Chris in London said:
I don't understand why this is still an issue.

We don't extradite people to places where torture is part of the criminal justice system. No exceptions. Doesn't matter how undesirable they are. That's why the Government was just refused permission to appeal.

I think that the recent deportation of suspects under extraordinary rendition makes this ring somewhat hollow, Chris, although I agree entirely with your sentiments otherwise.
 
Chris in London said:
I don't understand why this is still an issue.

We don't extradite people to places where torture is part of the criminal justice system. No exceptions. Doesn't matter how undesirable they are. That's why the Government was just refused permission to appeal.

If he has committed crimes here, by all means prosecute him, convict him, sentence him and deport him. If there's the evidence, put him before a jury. If he has committed crimes elsewhere in the world which can be brought before our courts under our law, let's get on with it.

In the absence of that, we can't start ignoring our own laws and freedoms just because they sometimes produce results we don't like.

I fucking hate it when someone uses actual facts and common sense in a post, we need more of our nut jobs with their prejudiced rants fuelled by dubious media scaremongering.
 

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