Government loses Abu Qatada appeal

[Skashion]

If you're saying Jordan is comparable with Nazi Germany, I don't think there is any point discussing it further.

By the way, torture is illegal in Jordan (and the UN is involved in trying to eradicate it) unlike racial discrimination in Nazi Germany so it's not a good comparison anyway.

No, I'm not, I'm saying the principles are the same. You said you can't question laws in other countries. You are now doing so. You said he should have hung around to claim the evidence used against him was improper, but it wouldn't have been improper, it would have been permissible. So why should he hang around and let himself be proved guilty by evidence gotten by torture?

Oh dear, are you now trying to argue this whole thing hasn't been about torture? This should be fun. Go, explain how it isn't about torture. Why the issue with the ECHR article six? Why have the UK and Jordan had to sign a treaty over it?

 

[west didsblue]

If you're saying Jordan is comparable with Nazi Germany, I don't think there is any point discussing it further.

By the way, torture is illegal in Jordan (and the UN is involved in trying to eradicate it) unlike racial discrimination in Nazi Germany so it's not a good comparison anyway.

No, I'm not, I'm saying the principles are the same. You said you can't question laws in other countries. You are now doing so. You said he should have hung around to claim the evidence used against him was improper, but it wouldn't have been improper, it would have been permissible. So why should he hang around and let himself be proved guilty by evidence gotten by torture?

Oh dear, are you now trying to argue this whole thing hasn't been about torture? This should be fun. Go, explain how it isn't about torture. Why the issue with the ECHR article six? Why have the UK and Jordan had to sign a treaty over it?

I didn't say that. I said that torture is illegal in Jordan unlike racial discrimination in Nazi Germany. The use of evidence obtained from illegal torture is another question and your comparison with Nazi Germany isn't applicable to this.

 

[Bones]

Our government can drop bombs without care in the world yet they won't sling this prick?

 

[Skashion]

I didn't say that. I said that torture is illegal unlike racial discrimination in Nazi Germany. The use of evidence obtained from illegal torture is another question and your comparison with Nazi Germany isn't applicable to this.

How on Earth can you say torture isn't ok, but 'evidence' gotten by torture is fine? In order to get 'evidence' from torture there had to be torture. It's bloody self-evident. How can that be fine? What, just because the subject of the trial may, and I stress may, because Jordan's human rights record is very poor, not be tortured, why is the fact that someone else definitely has been tortured any more acceptable?<br /><br />-- Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:46 am --<br /><br />Anyroad, I'm calling an end to hostilities for the night. I'm awful tired now, boss. Dog tired.

 

[Plaything of the gods]

Lets hope the wanker gets a good kicking. Embarrassing how long he's managed to stay here for all concerned.

Embarrassing how easily the media can manipulate opinion.

 

[dazdon]

All this is just nonsense!

Some people just like to rock the boat in the comfort that they can.....in fact they are similar to the fucker we've just booted out of the country.

Is there a legal timescale we need to adhere to to get the rest of his brood deported?

 

[Skashion]

All this is just nonsense!

Some people just like to rock the boat in the comfort that they can.....in fact they are similar to the fucker we've just booted out of the country.

Is there a legal timescale we need to adhere to to get the rest of his brood deported?

I love this post.

 

[dazdon]

All this is just nonsense!

Some people just like to rock the boat in the comfort that they can.....in fact they are similar to the fucker we've just booted out of the country.

Is there a legal timescale we need to adhere to to get the rest of his brood deported?

I love this post.

I aim to please.

Will his lovely family be visiting him in his time of need?

 

[Jc3065]

What a load of bollox

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How out of date are you. Abu Qatada has been deported back to Jordan and was put before a Jordanian court on Sunday evening.

 

[dazdon]