I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.Blue Tooth said:SWP's back said:The problem we have nowadays is that the media can have a huge affect on consumer confidence and people on the same or more money now than they were on 18 months ago aren't spending as much due to a state of fear
Of all the things you wrote in this thread this jumped out at me.
I think FEAR is at the heart of a lot of the current issues we face in society.
Fear of not enough money.Fear of losing your job. Fear that what you have might be taken away.(Pension fraud, Bank collapse) Fear of other people (The war on terror)
I could go on.
Harking back to a better bygone time (Colin Bells Jockstrap for example) for some people is perhaps expressing a desire for community to be re-established. Jumpers for goalposts and all that. For me the lack of any real community in general (there are exeptions as always) is a big part of the problem. There's a lot of anger and hatred towards each other in the modern world and I for one find that a bit depressing.
SWP's back said:I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.Blue Tooth said:SWP's back said:The problem we have nowadays is that the media can have a huge affect on consumer confidence and people on the same or more money now than they were on 18 months ago aren't spending as much due to a state of fear
Of all the things you wrote in this thread this jumped out at me.
I think FEAR is at the heart of a lot of the current issues we face in society.
Fear of not enough money.Fear of losing your job. Fear that what you have might be taken away.(Pension fraud, Bank collapse) Fear of other people (The war on terror)
I could go on.
Harking back to a better bygone time (Colin Bells Jockstrap for example) for some people is perhaps expressing a desire for community to be re-established. Jumpers for goalposts and all that. For me the lack of any real community in general (there are exeptions as always) is a big part of the problem. There's a lot of anger and hatred towards each other in the modern world and I for one find that a bit depressing.
Erm yes. Lots. Just not on Loose Women.blupoo said:SWP's back said:I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.Blue Tooth said:Of all the things you wrote in this thread this jumped out at me.
I think FEAR is at the heart of a lot of the current issues we face in society.
Fear of not enough money.Fear of losing your job. Fear that what you have might be taken away.(Pension fraud, Bank collapse) Fear of other people (The war on terror)
I could go on.
Harking back to a better bygone time (Colin Bells Jockstrap for example) for some people is perhaps expressing a desire for community to be re-established. Jumpers for goalposts and all that. For me the lack of any real community in general (there are exeptions as always) is a big part of the problem. There's a lot of anger and hatred towards each other in the modern world and I for one find that a bit depressing.
It is a capitalist world in which we live. People want what others have but feel they should not have to put in the effort, work, and toil that others do. FFS some of these people have more than I do and have never worked a day in their lives. They see what others have and refuse to put in a days work to earn what they want. This suits the powers at be because it means tax increases are justified to reduce police cuts etc. Has anyone spoken about the state of the economy since this all kicked off? Well Job Done Then!
SWP's back said:I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.Blue Tooth said:SWP's back said:The problem we have nowadays is that the media can have a huge affect on consumer confidence and people on the same or more money now than they were on 18 months ago aren't spending as much due to a state of fear
Of all the things you wrote in this thread this jumped out at me.
I think FEAR is at the heart of a lot of the current issues we face in society.
Fear of not enough money.Fear of losing your job. Fear that what you have might be taken away.(Pension fraud, Bank collapse) Fear of other people (The war on terror)
I could go on.
Harking back to a better bygone time (Colin Bells Jockstrap for example) for some people is perhaps expressing a desire for community to be re-established. Jumpers for goalposts and all that. For me the lack of any real community in general (there are exeptions as always) is a big part of the problem. There's a lot of anger and hatred towards each other in the modern world and I for one find that a bit depressing.
SWP's back said:Erm yes. Lots. Just not on Loose Women.blupoo said:SWP's back said:I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.
It is a capitalist world in which we live. People want what others have but feel they should not have to put in the effort, work, and toil that others do. FFS some of these people have more than I do and have never worked a day in their lives. They see what others have and refuse to put in a days work to earn what they want. This suits the powers at be because it means tax increases are justified to reduce police cuts etc. Has anyone spoken about the state of the economy since this all kicked off? Well Job Done Then!
Yeah 65-93, spoken about it with half a dozen of my older clients this week funnily enough as the media were worrying them. 93 being the oldest, he's a Baron no less. I suppose it depends if Rose tinted glasses have been worn.Blue Tooth said:SWP's back said:I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.Blue Tooth said:Of all the things you wrote in this thread this jumped out at me.
I think FEAR is at the heart of a lot of the current issues we face in society.
Fear of not enough money.Fear of losing your job. Fear that what you have might be taken away.(Pension fraud, Bank collapse) Fear of other people (The war on terror)
I could go on.
Harking back to a better bygone time (Colin Bells Jockstrap for example) for some people is perhaps expressing a desire for community to be re-established. Jumpers for goalposts and all that. For me the lack of any real community in general (there are exeptions as always) is a big part of the problem. There's a lot of anger and hatred towards each other in the modern world and I for one find that a bit depressing.
Thankyou. You can actually avoid much of the media now too if you choose too but most people don't hence the sway it has. I am curious as to what constitutes 'senior' in your world and whilst they may feel it has always been thus my 'seniors'(65+) always talk about better times, community spirit and the like that appears to be pretty much non existent thses days.
SWP's back said:Yeah 65-93, spoken about it with half a dozen of my older clients this week funnily enough as the media were worrying them. 93 being the oldest, he's a Baron no less. I suppose it depends if Rose tinted glasses have been worn.Blue Tooth said:SWP's back said:I think you make an excellent post here but discussing this point with some more "senior" grown ups in passing, I don't think it's ever been any different, it's just now we have 24 hour news to deal with. You could avoid much of the media before and newspapers reported news, now they report things that may happen. Look at the press and bird flu as an example, needless page after page designed to ensure a captive audiance purchased to avoid a global pandemic that never materialised.
Thankyou. You can actually avoid much of the media now too if you choose too but most people don't hence the sway it has. I am curious as to what constitutes 'senior' in your world and whilst they may feel it has always been thus my 'seniors'(65+) always talk about better times, community spirit and the like that appears to be pretty much non existent thses days.