hilts
Well-Known Member
Look, there are some relevant points in your comment but I think what's often missing in these discussions is balance. If my comments have come across as sneering then I apologise because that's not my attention at all.
I'd like to think that anybody of reasonable mind doesn't expect every single one of us to be fully up to date with what is deemed acceptable. As at least one other person has rightfully pointed out, it is a minefield and it's in almost constant flux.
Once again, a mistake is a mistake and intent is important. I don't think Gregg Clarke's use of the word "coloured" is proof of him being a racist but I think his comments as a whole paint a picture of him as an incredibly ignorant man. The fact of the matter is that someone in his position and working for an organisation such as the FA needs to keep himself better informed than that.
Similarly, I wouldn't call anyone on here a racist, Nazi, populist or apologist for not knowing the way the term has been perceived for the last twenty or thirty years. How would you know any better if you haven't been exposed to that knowledge?
Anyway, I'm aware that the way I try and articulate my points can come across as contemptful or like I'm trying to lecture people so I'll leave the thread because I think making people feel that way is counterproductive to the message.
I'll just end it by saying that the words you use aren't an intrinsic part of your identity. A criticism of the language you may have once used or still use without knowing any better isn't a criticism of you as a person. The important thing, as far as I'm concerned, is that you adapt and respond to those around you rather than pushing back with no good reason. That's what respect is and that's all anyone can reasonably ask for.
I have no idea if I was talking about you I almost never remember who posted what I just reply to content of the post. I’m as likely to agree with you tomorrow as disagree. I don’t have ideologies.
I didn’t push the debate towards his use of the word coloured it was already at that point when I arrived. Just replied to a post about councils in the 80s. Some pillock tried to be a smart arse and then was abusive. It happens.
The simple fact is everyone has different life experiences and some on here who preach understanding of minorities which is a decent thing to do should maybe think about others as well before they ‘read between the lines’.
I have never seen a decent debate on race on here and never will. This collective, society has decided term is just horsehit. Human beings have done an appalling job with race relations.
The only reasonable thing the majority can agree on is Greg Clarke is a bit of a dick.
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