Grenfell Tower block disaster

[yeseye]

But one of the issues has been that families do not want to be moved to areas they are not familiar with, away from their support networks and the Government has been criticised for this also.

And yes it is complex because for 33 councils to permanently keep back rooms/properties for 5-10 people, based on the possibility of a disaster like this, could result in homeless families/individuals permanently not having somewhere to stay. Would that be fair on those people?

If you have finite resources you cannot not use them based on the possibility of an emergency you do not know if it will ever happen. That would be absurd.

Maybe take a couple of acres in hampstead heath and purchase 50 static caravans. Has to be better then what's happening now? Rows of blow up beds on a leisure centre floor certainly isn't the answer imo.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

Maybe take a couple of acres in hampstead heath and purchase 50 static caravans. Has to be better then what's happening now? Rows of blow up beds on a leisure centre floor certainly isn't the answer imo.

Don't start with the common sense stuff this is a council we are talking about, your suggestion is a great deal better than a leisure centre floor. They need to admit they haven't got the accommodation available and come up with a plan similar to your suggestion.
In Camden alone there are 30,000 people on the council housing list even when they offer private landlords up to £80,000 to do up empty vacant properties to let.
The system isn't working.

 

[allan harper]

Then post a fucking Green Goddess on each block until they've been suitably accommodated.

What part of ( it's a fucking fire hazard, life's are in danger) do you not understand?

 

[franksinatra]

Maybe take a couple of acres in hampstead heath and purchase 50 static caravans. Has to be better then what's happening now? Rows of blow up beds on a leisure centre floor certainly isn't the answer imo.

It would soon get pictured as a shanty town and the council further criticised as a couple of 100 people, all traumatised, suffered the loss of fanily members/friends stuck in the middle of a field by the heartless council. Incidentally I am not dissgreeing with your wider point but I just know the council, particularly post 2010, will not have the resources in place.

Case in point my department has gone from 18 staff to 4 (including the manager). Its an impossible situation and these failures you have noted, just like the crisis in adult social care, hospitals are the consequence. The fact is individual councils do not have the resources or time to cope with such a tragic disaster. It needs a special team, with regular experience of such events to coordinate this, such as Cobra or something similar.

 

[SilverFox2]

Surely if the fire risk is as high as it seems to be then evacuation is the only option.
Belatedly all councils are realising the seriousness of not making proper risk assessments of materials used in construction and the way in which the materials will be used.

Cannot blame them now and no doubt their plea of not knowing cannot now be used so let them answer why they allowed the same risk at the time of refurb at a later date.

All who used these flammable materials were the very people who should have been in a position to stop their use. Plenty of paperwork for the Police to work on or at least there should be. If it is missing or not been done then I'm sure the legal implications will be able to cope with that possibility.

What a shambles of indifference has been shown in the past by all the councils who are now rushing to show how concerned they are.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

What part of ( it's a fucking fire hazard, life's are in danger) do you not understand?

Of course I get the risk, but posting precautionary measures whilst they endeavour to prepare accommodation and perform a more orderly top down withdraw would surely be a more reasonable approach.

 

[yeseye]

What on earth are the window cleaners doing up there?

 

[Blue Maverick]

What on earth are the window cleaners doing up there?

Cleaniñg the windows

 

[Machiavelli]

What on earth are the window cleaners doing up there?

Earning an honest bob.

 

[yeseye]

Cleaniñg the windows

Yes, i gathered that. They can't have done a risk assessment!