Grenfell Tower block disaster

[BlueHammer85]

Actually fucking despicable. I hope they’re named and shamed and their lives changed forever. Scum.

amazing how some would rather that didn't happen

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

What crime has been committed though?

They’re awful cunts the lot of them but is it illegal?

Just listened to some legal beagle outlining the ins and outs of the appropriate statute and it includes 'causing distress'!' Now my question is Who is to decide when, where and to whom has distress been caused? I think this opens up a pathway to nail City with a public order charge by causing distress to so many in the RDAHMeedya!

 

[yerwot?]

Just a bit of banter, anyone claiming racial overtones must be one of them remainers. Just because the faces were brown, ffs we'd run out of white crayons..... Some sensitive souls think making fun of children being incinerated is offensive, not us, anyfink goes in the cheeky cockney world of alf garnett wannabes. Gertcha.
Anyway, thanks to the army of barrack-room lawyers who have sprung to their defence clutching " semantics for dummys" book of excuses, and collections by the edl, there wont be any worries, not as if the scrupulously neutral met. police are going to be a bit careless with choke-holds and tasers "know what i mean guv" .
I feel sorry for the editors of the sun and mail and telegraph, desperate to create another heroic group to lionise but wary of a " decency " outbreak affecting advert revenues.
Meanwhile, the victims of criminal negligence are no nearer justice, the perpetrators no nearer facing the consequences of their behaviour, and probably never will given the track record of tories holding tories to account. Before I go, have you heard the one about ( insert whatever racist,homophobic, jewish, islamic scottish, irish welsh etc ) floats yr boat

 

[CityStu]

I'm not sure that it's criminal, but it's among the most distasteful things I've ever seen.

 

[Mike N]

Sad people actually took time to make the thing. They've clearly not got much going on in their lives.

 

[Ban-jani]

Just listened to some legal beagle outlining the ins and outs of the appropriate statute and it includes 'causing distress'!' Now my question is Who is to decide when, where and to whom has distress been caused? I think this opens up a pathway to nail City with a public order charge by causing distress to so many in the RDAHMeedya!

This is a slippery slope.

“Causing distress” by offending people as a crime would be the end of free Western society.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

What crime has been committed though?

They’re awful cunts the lot of them but is it illegal?

s5 Public Order Act.

 

[Mon Autre]

Playing devil's advocate, how it is any different to burning effigies of Guy Fawkes? Or the recreation of the Great Fire of London that takes place each year?

It's completely different. The recreation of the Great Fire (which I think was a one off for a big anniversary rather than an annual event) was a commemoration and the spirit in which it was carried out was in remembrance. I'd probs accept that people might be of the opinion it might not be the best way of doing it but the act in itself was well meant. What these scumbags did was celebrate and mock the deaths of 72 people and they made it abundantly clear that their main motivation for that was that a large proportion of the victims were non white and or/poor. I'm in agreement that a crime probably hasn't been committed but I think it's still ok to call out a grossly antisocial act like this for what it is. Based on what we know, it probably isn't something most people would expect the legal courts to deal with but I don't have a problem at all with however their peers and wider society wants to view them and deal with them from now on. I'm really struggling to wrap my head around how people could behave in this way. It was genuinely depressing to watch.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

This is a slippery slope.

“Causing distress” by offending people as a crime would be the end of free Western society.

Well it has managed alright so far mate, that has been a crime for decades.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

amazing how some would rather that didn't happen

I think they are pretty obviously horrendous individuals and if bad things happen to them, I won't be unhappy about that in the slightest. I wouldn't be entirely comfortable with them being charged with a crime though and I think there is an argument that it is a waste of police time and money to pursue it in the way that they have. I still go back to the person who posted it on twitter. He saw this on a private WhatsApp group. If he looks at that and thinks bunch of childish twats and deletes it then you don't have lots of people who have friends and relatives killed in the fire upset by it. He could even have just gone straight to the police and reported it. What he did was look at it and think, I am hugely offended by this so I am going to make sure lots of other people see something offensive. He has deliberately disseminated offensive and upsetting material. They should charge him as well, teach people that they don't have to instantly put everything they see on social fucking media.