Grenfell Tower block disaster

[kaz7]

Grenfell cladding - Banned or allowed?

Earlier, Chancellor Phillip Hammond said the cladding used to insulate Grenfell Tower is banned in Britain.

However, this has been countered by the managing director of a firm which produced rainscreen panels and windows for Grenfell Tower's cladding sub-contractor Harley Facades Ltd.

CEP Architectural Facades' John Cowley said: "Reynobond PE is not banned in the UK.

"Current building regulations allow its use in both low-rise and high-rise structures.

"The key question now is whether the overall design of the building's complete exterior was properly tested and subsequently signed off by the relevant authorities including the fire officer, building compliance officer and architect before commencement of the project."

 

[kaz7]

Met Police commander Stuart Cundy adds that "the conditions due to the fire damage verge on indescribable, which is why this will be such a lengthy operation taking weeks to complete".

He says: "We must also prepare people for the terrible reality that some people may not be identified due to the intensity of the fire."

On the number of those feared dead, he adds: "I must consider the fact that there may be others in the building who, for whatever reason have not been reported to us.

"There is also a real possibility that there may be people in the building that no one knows are missing."

http://news.sky.com/story/west-lond...-confirms-there-have-been-fatalities-10915010

 

[west didsblue]

What are the estimations?

There was a local resident on the news who reckoned 160 were missing. It wouldn't surprise me if it was somewhere around that.

 

[Crouchinho]

There was a local resident on the news who reckoned 160 were missing. It wouldn't surprise me if it was somewhere around that.

Shite that is mate. Although at first I'd thought it would be more. I'm sure a few had visitor stay over too

 

[HelloCity]

 

[Len Rum]

Grenfell cladding - Banned or allowed?

Earlier, Chancellor Phillip Hammond said the cladding used to insulate Grenfell Tower is banned in Britain.

However, this has been countered by the managing director of a firm which produced rainscreen panels and windows for Grenfell Tower's cladding sub-contractor Harley Facades Ltd.

CEP Architectural Facades' John Cowley said: "Reynobond PE is not banned in the UK.

"Current building regulations allow its use in both low-rise and high-rise structures.

"The key question now is whether the overall design of the building's complete exterior was properly tested and subsequently signed off by the relevant authorities including the fire officer, building compliance officer and architect before commencement of the project."

Interesting kaz.
I was involved in a discussion with Blue Anorak and Silverfox earlier which indicated that based on the building regulations the cladding is not banned and in fact meets the requirements of British Standards in high rise buildings.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

"Local People"
She is clearly not informed. If you want to know what has been done why not look for official information rather than uninformed hearsay?
https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/newsroom/all-council-statements/grenfell-tower-latest

The local K&C council has done such a great job that the Chief Executive of Lewisham is now running the relief effort helped by other London Councils plus the Red Cross. It's alright putting out statements but people need urgent help on the ground and even rescue professionals are criticising the efforts so far.

 

[worsleyweb]

The local K&C council has done such a great job that the Chief Executive of Lewisham is now running the relief effort helped by other London Councils plus the Red Cross. It's alright putting out statements but people need urgent help on the ground and even rescue professionals are criticising the efforts so far.

Seems to be a piss poor effort with little leadership or communication. Dire.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

The local K&C council has done such a great job that the Chief Executive of Lewisham is now running the relief effort helped by other London Councils plus the Red Cross. It's alright putting out statements but people need urgent help on the ground and even rescue professionals are criticising the efforts so far.

While I agree the K&G council appear to have been poor that doesn't change the facts as posted. The discussion was about housing the victims which has been done. What I would also say is that while many people have been willing to help by donating food, it clearly isn't needed. This is what happens when people just act without thought. They have wasted money which could have been put to much better use if they had been able to control the urge to just do something and instead done something useful.

I'm also at a loss as to what the Mayor has been doing throughout this. I would have thought this is exactly the sort of event where the Mayoral office should step in and coordinate.

 

[worsleyweb]

While I agree the K&G council appear to have been poor that doesn't change the facts as posted. The discussion was about housing the victims which has been done. What I would also say is that while many people have been willing to help by donating food, it clearly isn't needed. This is what happens when people just act without thought. They have wasted money which could have been put to much better use if they had been able to control the urge to just do something and instead done something useful.

I'm also at a loss as to what the Mayor has been doing throughout this. I would have thought this is exactly the sort of event where the Mayoral office should step in and coordinate.

He seems to me to be looking to point the finger rather than contribute to the order.