In Manchester it's 4 pumps initially, this can be quickly made up for extra pumps and platforms although I think we only have 4 left in Manchester now, no water tanker as water is from the mains and pumped into the base of the tower allowing crews to plug in inside.I would imagine the PDA for a fire in a highrise building would be 4 pumps ,water tanker and at least 1 height platform at the initial stage of the incident.
If it goes up the outside itbwill enter through the windows the fire loading in a flat coupled with the blow torch effect from wind will intensify the fire, now if people are leaving their flats they probably haven't shut their doors this will then allow the fire to spread internally, eventually reaching a flashpoint where everything goes up. I'm only guessing at this stage but it won't be far off that.Heard that chap, too. Really got the impression that the fire went straight up one end of the building and then more slowly spread across each floor. Would have thought buildings were tested for such conditions.
Quite a warm night in London last night, so probably lots of open windows which would allow the fire to get inside.If it goes up the outside itbwill enter through the windows the fire loading in a flat coupled with the blow torch effect from wind will intensify the fire, now if people are leaving their flats they probably haven't shut their doors this will then allow the fire to spread internally, eventually reaching a flashpoint where everything goes up. I'm only guessing at this stage but it won't be far off that.
If it goes up the outside itbwill enter through the windows the fire loading in a flat coupled with the blow torch effect from wind will intensify the fire, now if people are leaving their flats they probably haven't shut their doors this will then allow the fire to spread internally, eventually reaching a flashpoint where everything goes up. I'm only guessing at this stage but it won't be far off that.
It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord....
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/
The KCTMO web site is down, no doubt there are some individuals in that organisation who will be keeping a very low profile today. Their reviews from clients are appalling.
Fire safety is a joke in lots of places. I've worked for the same company in Vietnam and Morocco, but it's a British company and therefore is supposed to follow British safety regulations. The last three fire drills I've done (with children), we've been told we can't use the actual fire exit because it's locked. In fact, in one of those, it wasn't even a drill, it was a kid who'd pressed the alarm.
Government endangering tower blocks by delaying fire safety regulations review....
http://www.frmjournal.com/news/news_detail.government-endangering-tower-blocks-by-delaying-fire-safety-regulations-review.html?_tkn=D4B9696E-F65B-460F-A99C52A8B46A77D6
Hello, hello...Gavin Barwell no less! May's new chief of staff.
Theresa May's chief of staff 'sat on' report warning high-rise blocks like Grenfell Tower were vulnerable to fire....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-mays-chief-staff-sat-10620357
This gets worse and worse.....
Corbyn tried to pass law to make homes safe last year – the Conservatives rejected it....
http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...-safe-last-year-conservatives-rejected/14/06/
You don't actually need combustible material on the outside. It's the coanda effect.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0yQLIlIetDM&ved=0ahUKEwiX8pCRm73UAhUEC8AKHb7dBP4Qo7QBCBwwAA&usg=AFQjCNEj5X6Yyr-ecWahKeV_we6rXK8znA
AGAIN - can we keep the thread for news please.
If you wish to talk politics use the threads available.
That would sound about right. The PDA over here in Ireland would be the same as we generally copy almost word for word the UKs standard operational guidines. Even a standard domestic fire had a 2 pump PDA, to say only 1 pump was dispatched initially would be completely untrue. As you quite rightly say the building would have a high riser( charged from the aplliances pump or from the mains?) Would you get enough pressure from the hydrants in england to keep the line charged all the way to top of the building.In Manchester it's 4 pumps initially, this can be quickly made up for extra pumps and platforms although I think we only have 4 left in Manchester now, no water tanker as water is from the mains and pumped into the base of the tower allowing crews to plug in inside.
Actually if you check, my stance is consistent, in the recent terrorist attack threads we have also asked for politics, and/or reaction to the attack be kept out of the thread, and to keep the thread for news.If a terrorists kills innocent people we can talk about terrorism and even laws relating to terrorism, but if a landlord gets away with housing their tenants in a fire trap, taking advantage of lax legislation and people die, we can't talk about the landlord or the legislation?