The girl is a puppet used for publicity. The boat carries a diesel generator to recharge it's batteries when there isn't enough solar power. Only one boat attempted the vendee globe on renewables last time and it retired.The wind that pushed the boat was free.
I think people attacking the messenger instead of tackling the message that is being highlighted is pretty much the corporate ploy that we see constantly.
And no I’m not one that believes the planet will die anytime soon, but we are overpopulated now and anyone who denies we are not in the midst of global warming whether it is cyclical or purely man made has their own motivation for putting that message out.
Making a villain out of a young girl with a message is not the way to tackle the message either.
There is s problem. Anything that focuses government minds for altruistic or non altruistic reasons, is not a bad thing IMO.
You make a reasoned and reasonable argument, but my word if you want personal attacks, look at what the people who are skeptical about global warming or its severity have to put up with!!!The problem I have with the "we've got to put it in proportion" argument is that it's only emerged since the same people's previous position has become publicly untenable. Basically we've had 10-20 years of one side losing the argument and shifting the goal posts. First is was that the planet isn't warming. Then when it became widely accepted that it was, it was that humans weren't causing it and it was just a natural part of the cycles of warming and cooling. And then when it became widely accepted that humans are responsible, it was that yeah sure global warming is man made, but the negative effects are being exaggerated. It sounds like progress, I guess, but the implication of every one of these arguments, however, is that we have to be sceptical about people trying to work to protect the environment. Hence the fairly constant personal attacks on any individual trying to use their profile to raise awareness of particular issues too.
Everything these people do, every action, creates more of the problems they are so frantically telling us about.I work in the industry that makes this "eco friendly" yacht that she's sailed on. I know the resources and energy needed to get from raw material to finished product. It would have been much kinder to the planet if Greta and the crew would have chartered a private jet.
There was a takeaway in Bristol on the TV last night, with an article about their new tiffin boxes for the takeaways. You either buy one for £10 or get charged £10 for it which is credited when you bring it back.Everything these people do, every action, creates more of the problems they are so frantically telling us about.
It is the classic do as I say, not as I do, like a vegan telling us to avoid meat, through a mouthful of Big Mac.
There's definitely a calculation to be made. A plastic bag for life should be used between 4 and 11 times (depending on the type and which study you believe) to compensate for the extra energy needed to make it. For a cotton bag, it rises to over 7000 times. So it's probably better to use a plastic bag for life until it dies than invest in a cotton one (cotton is a particularly destructive industry too). But just looking at carbon impact isn't the entire story, because the main issue with plastic isn't the fact that it uses resources to make, it's that once it's made, it sticks around ruining the environment for a long time. With cotton, it has a terrible impact on fresh water supplies. The other issue with plastic is just the sheer volume of it that's completely unnecessary. The UK isn't actually too bad. Come to Asia and see the fucking mountain of pointless plastic given out every day. The number of times you'll buy a single item and they'll put it in a bag for you without asking. When I lived in Vietnam, they'd even put a bonus straw in it for you just in case you'd forgotten how to tip a bottle up. My favourite one in Malaysia is that they've just implemented a plastic bag charge, but if you opt to not take a bag, they'll put a little bit of plastic tape with "paid" written on it on every item you've bought. Genius.There was a takeaway in Bristol on the TV last night, with an article about their new tiffin boxes for the takeaways. You either buy one for £10 or get charged £10 for it which is credited when you bring it back.
The idea is to cut down on the amount of plastic waste - very admirable. But it left me wondering just how much CO2 is produced and how much environmental damage is done by making a reasonably complex steel box, as opposed to a bit of extruded plastic. The mining of the iron ore, shipping the iron ore, smelting, making the steel, fabricating the steel etc. Huge amounts of energy, CO2, and waste goes into making 1 metal tiffin box.
Clearly the metal tins are re-usable but just how many times do they have to get re-used before it's a "win"? And then they looked at alternative plastic boxes, made from fully biodegradable plastic made from vegetables! Which I would imagine are a million times better, and yet the dungaree wearers were all there in force with their precious tins.
Al Gore was attacked.The problem I have with the "we've got to put it in proportion" argument is that it's only emerged since the same people's previous position has become publicly untenable. Basically we've had 10-20 years of one side losing the argument and shifting the goal posts. First is was that the planet isn't warming. Then when it became widely accepted that it was, it was that humans weren't causing it and it was just a natural part of the cycles of warming and cooling. And then when it became widely accepted that humans are responsible, it was that yeah sure global warming is man made, but the negative effects are being exaggerated. It sounds like progress, I guess, but the implication of every one of these arguments, however, is that we have to be sceptical about people trying to work to protect the environment. Hence the fairly constant personal attacks on any individual trying to use their profile to raise awareness of particular issues too.
She's been targeted relentlessly about her looks and Asperger's online too, fuckin scumbags.Al Gore was attacked.
Greta is attacked.
Just tackle the argument and don't shoot the messenger.
The girl is a puppet used for publicity. The boat carries a diesel generator to recharge it's batteries when there isn't enough solar power. Only one boat attempted the vendee globe on renewables last time and it retired.
This figure of 97% of scientists that people like to quote. Have you looked into how that was arrived at?The problem I have with the "we've got to put it in proportion" argument is that it's only emerged since the same people's previous position has become publicly untenable. Basically we've had 10-20 years of one side losing the argument and shifting the goal posts. First is was that the planet isn't warming. Then when it became widely accepted that it was, it was that humans weren't causing it and it was just a natural part of the cycles of warming and cooling. And then when it became widely accepted that humans are responsible, it was that yeah sure global warming is man made, but the negative effects are being exaggerated. It sounds like progress, I guess, but the implication of every one of these arguments, however, is that we have to be sceptical about people trying to work to protect the environment. Hence the fairly constant personal attacks on any individual trying to use their profile to raise awareness of particular issues too.