Yeah but that's not what's been happening has it? When has anyone said "he gets things wrong sometimes" and then been jumped on by the forum?
Plenty are slagging him off. The idea that Pep cannot or doesn't understand defending is a mainstream opinion here.
constantly.....the moment someone dares suggest Pep (or Pellers) may have got something wrong they are hounded by the same individuals......I have no problem with people having a different opinion but its the way its done and it gets personal....
It's a good post but I would also come back at that to say that due to relationships out here I've spent a bit of time in a social setting with former PL managers (notably two or three English managers) and been absolutely shocked by some of their logic when discussing football in general and matches they'd just watched and been pundits for. To the point where they make Merson look like Ancelotti.No you're building a strawman.
If you want to talk about Pep's performance then fine. So do I and presumably FI. BillyShears has a whole podcast where he's critical of Pep and in fact gets slagged off for being TOO critical by people.
The thing that pisses me off is that some people have a starting place in their logic that he's wank. Bill's constant sneering towards who is seen by the non-City friendly media as the best manager on the planet is ridiculous. Same with many others. This "HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, HE FLUKED EVERYTHING AT BARCA AND FAILED AT BAYERN!" is also ridiculous.
The difference between us and them is that we generally start from a place that Guardiola knows what he's doing due to the about fifty fucking trophies he's won in 7 years of management. We think that if something does wrong then it's worth thinking about what he was trying to achieve, what did or didn't work, and plan from that. What we don't do is say his entire system of football is wrong and here's what he should have done instead gleamed from years of experience I have about football from being a bricklayer in Blackley.
For the record, people used to say the exact thing you've said about me when I talked about Hughes, Mancini and Pellegrini. In fact I had arguments with Billy over Mancini and FI over Pellegrini. These people are at the very very top of the game that's inhabited by millions of people. You don't get there by being a clueless buffoon. You presume that they know what they're doing as a starting point and jump off from that.
Doing the opposite thing where you presume he doesn't know what he's doing is what gets me sneering and looking down my nose at people. This guy isn't just talented, he's the top 1% of the 1% and has the trophies to prove it. He deserves to be given a bit of respect for that.
If the forwards had done their job we'd still be in the Champions Leaguewell i aint mine
my opinion is that the quality of defenders he has at his disposal is nowhere near god enough to defend the way he wants and at how at times it necessitates with he way he sets his teams up.
No one knows if this is true. We haven't seen him play enough the last 3 years to conclude this.
And it goes both ways. I'd have more respect for some of them if they didn't play victim.
If the forwards had done their job we'd still be in the Champions League
I agree with what you said about Kompany: we can't assess his current ability as we haven't seen him.
Regarding the rest of the defenders, I think Stones and Kolarov are the only players that City will want to retain. The goalkeeping issue is also massive. Look at the points Schmeichel wins for Leicester. I am hoping that Bravo will come good. I like WIlly but I am not sure he would be my No.1 keeper.
i don't get it bad and i don't really care but some of the abuse some posters get goes way beyond