Gundogan

[aguero93:20]

I would be there in an instant but these cats won't let me leave the hide, they've become a bit nasty just lately, also not sure I'm allowed back into Germany after a rather unfortunate incident involving a dwarf a brass and a menacing look bratwurst.

You need a pet staffy.

 

[kunaguero10]

Where does Delph fit into all this?

 

[Dax777]

From what I have seen off him in numerous videos he seems to love playing the deep and just spraying the ball around the wings near the box. I don't really see him as a attacking mid or a very effective goalscorer. I just think under Pep we might be getting rid of the concept of having a hard player as a DM however he did have Xabi and Busquets at his two clubs till now. Maybe he sees Gundogan as a similar player to Xabi Alonso. I think our mid two would probably be Fernandinho and Gundogan, whilst a bit weak defensively we would compensate with a bit of pace on the counter and a lot more possession.

This

 

[BlueCityfan]

We need 1 more CM after Gundogan. 2, if Fernando leaves. Pep will probably play with 2 CM's most of the time, but with Delph's and Gundogan's injury records. I think we need 5 midfielders.

 

[Tanzeylee]

You need a pet staffy.

God no, that got me in trouble in Italy.

 

[aguero93:20]

Where does Delph fit into all this?

CityTV.

 

[BlueByBlood]

Sterling--------------------Aguero-----------------Sane

------------Gundogan--------------DeBruyne----------

-------------------------Fernandinho------------------

Or



---------------------------Aguero--------------------------

Sterling---------------DeBruyne--------------------Sane

-----------Gundogan----------------Fernandinho---------

 

[Wolfkin]

Only a month...until hes holding up the shirt.

 

[Maldeika]

From what I have seen off him in numerous videos he seems to love playing the deep and just spraying the ball around the wings near the box. I don't really see him as a attacking mid or a very effective goalscorer. I just think under Pep we might be getting rid of the concept of having a hard player as a DM however he did have Xabi and Busquets at his two clubs till now. Maybe he sees Gundogan as a similar player to Xabi Alonso. I think our mid two would probably be Fernandinho and Gundogan, whilst a bit weak defensively we would compensate with a bit of pace on the counter and a lot more possession.

I guess I have seen him some times more than you did. And he is best as an 8 - even as a more offensive 8. In the German national team I would even prefer him to Özil on the 10 as he is defensivly a lot more capable, offers a lot creativity and is a lot more dynamic than e.g. Kroos.

He should be a player Pep likes as he is one of the intelligent players. It is very rare that football players from Germany with turkish migration background have made their A-levels.

 

[Dax777]

Gustavo was a squad player who'd been marginalised by Javi Martinez. I'd also disagree that he's a better player than Fernando, personally I think he got away with murder due to his team-mates and the qaulity of most opposition and it showed for Brazil and after he left Bayern (as well as every time he played for Bayern against Gundogan et al).

Guardiola also made great use of Keita at Barca who is a far inferior version of Fernando.

Then you should watch more of Keita. He is not an inferior version of Fernando. He is a cerebral footballer with a sweet left peg. He isnothing vlilr Fernando ( who I like by the way). More like a Dihno with less speed but better vision and brain.

 

[aguero93:20]

Then you should watch more of Keita. He is not an inferior version of Fernando. He is a cerebral footballer with a sweet left peg. He isnothing vlilr Fernando ( who I like by the way). More like a Dihno with less speed but better vision and brain.

I've watched plenty of him, I wouldn't say he has vision regardless of how well he can strike a ball. Guardiola also used him as a holding midfielder alongside the pivot, which is where I'd expect him to use Fernando.

 

[Dax777]

Where does Delph fit into all this?

Leftback. He really doesn't fit in at midfield. Did this calculation months ago, and came to that conclusion.

 

[worsleyweb]

Where does Delph fit into all this?

Hopefully back at Villa.

 

[Dax777]

I've watched plenty of him, I wouldn't say he has vision regardless of how well he can strike a ball. Guardiola also used him as a holding midfielder alongside the pivot, which is where I'd expect him to use Fernando.

I agree with how you expect Nando to be used. I disagree with your view of Keita as an inferior Fernando. Better movement, less restricted, better passer, great shooter.the only similarities is their calmness on the ball.

 

[BlueCityfan]

Leftback. He really doesn't fit in at midfield. Did this calculation months ago, and came to that conclusion.

No! He stays as a back-up midfielder or he is sold. No chance Pepe would just put a crocked average midfielder at LB. When he can just go and sign Wendell, Gaya or someone else.

 

[IWasHere]

Hopefully back at Villa.

Indeed

 

[Shaelumstash]

I think Fernando will go. Gundogan alone is big risk, we would be essentially one Gundogan injury away from having average midfield. We need at the very least 1 more in addition to Gundogan, ideally 2 more.

CM is our weakest position I would suggest.

Totally agree.

Fernando may have improved, but he was starting from such a low point that it would be difficult for him to have gotten any worse.

He'll get nowhere near a Guardiola side imo, he's nowhere near the required standard technically.

I expect Fernandinho to stay, he's perfectly suited to a Pep side, mobile, quick, athletic, good technique, intelligent with the ball.

He does like to load up the squad with midfielders. He often prefers a midfielder at centre back or full back than a specialist in those positions, because midfielders are so often better on the ball. And he usually lines up with 3 centre midfielders instead of two anyway.

With Yaya going, Fernando likely to, and us already being short there, I think it's sensible to buy 3 CM this summer.

Ideally I'd like to see:

one who can play as a pivote (anchorman) and as a box to box player - Gundogan

one who can play as a box to box player and as a winger - Isco

one who could play as a pivote, box to box player, or number 10 - Kroos or Pogba.

 

[zeven]

Pep have always got rid of players like Fernando. He hates them. Fernando will never play for Pep.

 

[Mezrah]

Totally agree.

Fernando may have improved, but he was starting from such a low point that it would be difficult for him to have gotten any worse.

He'll get nowhere near a Guardiola side imo, he's nowhere near the required standard technically.

I expect Fernandinho to stay, he's perfectly suited to a Pep side, mobile, quick, athletic, good technique, intelligent with the ball.

He does like to load up the squad with midfielders. He often prefers a midfielder at centre back or full back than a specialist in those positions, because midfielders are so often better on the ball. And he usually lines up with 3 centre midfielders instead of two anyway.

With Yaya going, Fernando likely to, and us already being short there, I think it's sensible to buy 3 CM this summer.

Ideally I'd like to see:

one who can play as a pivote (anchorman) and as a box to box player - Gundogan

one who can play as a box to box player and as a winger - Isco

one who could play as a pivote, box to box player, or number 10 - Kroos or Pogba.

I couldn't agree more!

 

[leighton]

We cant do much until we see who will not be part of the plans. I dont see as many moving away as I would hope to. Who would take Bony off us? Who will take say Delph? Yeah we will get someone for Yaya but there are still big questions on how many players will wait around and sit in the stands and see out there contract as the clubs wont offer them what they want.