oakiecokie
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Vincents Tackle said:
I still await your response as to where you have been threatened by someone on this forum !!
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Hansen, Lawrensen and Shearer bring shame on the BBC
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I still await your response as to where you have been threatened by someone on this forum !!
The perfect fumble
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Hansen, Lawrenson and Shearer don't have to be racists or rags to make inappropriate statements about Balotelli, they arrive at the conclusions they do by drawing on their past experiences, they are the sum of their parts.
Unfortunately for them and us, they have reached a stage in life where their ability and desire to change has ceased, in other words, they're dinosaurs. Things that they see as perfectly rational and reasonable, judged by their own standards, turn out, often to their astonishment, as unacceptable, similarly with Keys and Gray, who to this day can't understand why they're still not commenting on Sky Sports.
For Hansen, Lawrenson and Shearer, nothing in their past experience has prepared them for the likes of Balotelli, though it's not just Balotelli, all three pundits increasingly miss the point when it comes to football as it is today, and their disconnect becomes even more profound if they wander much beyond that which they are supposed to know.
They are professional pundits, a job they have done longer than their playing careers, which means they must speak authoritively (even when it's obvious they don't know what they are talking about) and it's an authority that seems ever more strident the longer it is since they kicked a competative ball. All three suffer from a self satisfied demeanor that settles on pundits over time, a smugness envelopes them, they do the talking and others listen!
I suspect there is a nagging doubt, suffered I think most acutely by Lawrensen, that deep down all three know they are creatures of another age, that the certainties that rooted them are looking increasingly shaky, it is this reason, beyond any other that leads them to be so critical of Balotelli, he more than anyone embodies something that brings home, painfully, that they are no longer relevant.
Try to imagine Lawrensen and Balotelli in the same room, on paper they should have something in common, they are/were professional footballers it should be none stop banter, in reality, of course, it would be hard to imagine that they could even begin a conversation. More than anything else I think that is why Hansen, Lawrenson and Shearer are so critical of Balotelli, he, more than any other player, informs that nagging suspicion in their heads that they're finished.
There comes a time, sadly for us all, when past experience either counts for little or is actually a hindrance to seeing things as they actually are.
Unfortunately for them and us, they have reached a stage in life where their ability and desire to change has ceased, in other words, they're dinosaurs. Things that they see as perfectly rational and reasonable, judged by their own standards, turn out, often to their astonishment, as unacceptable, similarly with Keys and Gray, who to this day can't understand why they're still not commenting on Sky Sports.
For Hansen, Lawrenson and Shearer, nothing in their past experience has prepared them for the likes of Balotelli, though it's not just Balotelli, all three pundits increasingly miss the point when it comes to football as it is today, and their disconnect becomes even more profound if they wander much beyond that which they are supposed to know.
They are professional pundits, a job they have done longer than their playing careers, which means they must speak authoritively (even when it's obvious they don't know what they are talking about) and it's an authority that seems ever more strident the longer it is since they kicked a competative ball. All three suffer from a self satisfied demeanor that settles on pundits over time, a smugness envelopes them, they do the talking and others listen!
I suspect there is a nagging doubt, suffered I think most acutely by Lawrensen, that deep down all three know they are creatures of another age, that the certainties that rooted them are looking increasingly shaky, it is this reason, beyond any other that leads them to be so critical of Balotelli, he more than anyone embodies something that brings home, painfully, that they are no longer relevant.
Try to imagine Lawrensen and Balotelli in the same room, on paper they should have something in common, they are/were professional footballers it should be none stop banter, in reality, of course, it would be hard to imagine that they could even begin a conversation. More than anything else I think that is why Hansen, Lawrenson and Shearer are so critical of Balotelli, he, more than any other player, informs that nagging suspicion in their heads that they're finished.
There comes a time, sadly for us all, when past experience either counts for little or is actually a hindrance to seeing things as they actually are.
Vincents Tackle
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oakiecokie said:Vincents Tackle said:Wow, I choose not to agree with an opinion that Hansen, Lawrensen and Shearer have a personal vendetta against Balotelli because they are racist and I must be a 'rag'? That's a pathetic statement to make.
Not that you care, but I am a genuine City fan, have been for over 20 years and never really felt the need to justify my love for City by being a member of a Blue-Moon. I have enough real friends to speak to if I want a conversation about football.
However seeing the attitude from some fans since we became big time with the 'everyone's out to get us' mentality is a bit disappointing and the reason I joined was to light heartedly suggest there may be a bit of an overreaction from some bordering on paranoia.
Most of the criticism aimed at City is out of jealousy and that's fine by me, it comes with success. Some of you seem to get really worked up by any little bit of negative press and I do understand that, personally I prefer to laugh it off.
Good luck with the campaign
I still await your response as to where you have been threatened by someone on this forum !!
Try asking a question then ??
If I'd insulted you you'd know about it but being a mod I have to be careful
You can calm down though, I'm a big boy, I can handle myself.
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As an earlier poster alluded to Ron Atkinson was nor banished from football for being a racist and Keys and Gray were not removed for being sexist. Does anyone think those characters should still have their positions?
The BBC MOTD team have done nothing for black footballers unlike Ron Atkinson who championed black players when manager of WBA. Hansen & Co's systematic personal abuse of Balotelli is far worse than Atkinson's offence but because they haven't used the N-word on air many people see nothing wrong.
Not all racists wear pointy hoods y'know...
Write to Ofcom or the BBC Trust if you really want change.
The BBC MOTD team have done nothing for black footballers unlike Ron Atkinson who championed black players when manager of WBA. Hansen & Co's systematic personal abuse of Balotelli is far worse than Atkinson's offence but because they haven't used the N-word on air many people see nothing wrong.
Not all racists wear pointy hoods y'know...
Write to Ofcom or the BBC Trust if you really want change.
Vincents Tackle said:Wow, I choose not to agree with an opinion that Hansen, Lawrensen and Shearer have a personal vendetta against Balotelli because they are racist and I must be a 'rag'? That's a pathetic statement to make.
Not that you care, but I am a genuine City fan, have been for over 20 years and never really felt the need to justify my love for City by being a member of a Blue-Moon. I have enough real friends to speak to if I want a conversation about football.
However seeing the attitude from some fans since we became big time with the 'everyone's out to get us' mentality is a bit disappointing and the reason I joined was to light heartedly suggest there may be a bit of an overreaction from some bordering on paranoia.
Most of the criticism aimed at City is out of jealousy and that's fine by me, it comes with success. Some of you seem to get really worked up by any little bit of negative press and I do understand that, personally I prefer to laugh it off.
Good luck with the campaign
A patronising tosser with an agenda.......Oh and friends to discuss football with unlike the rest of us who are a legion of lost souls and sad bastards.
Just dont think he can grasp the basic concept of a forum by fans dedicated to one football club.
Seems the sort of clown who would start a fight in an empty room or a media type defending an interest.
Breaking News: The BBC have got rid of one of their pundits but it is not Hansen,Sheare or Lawrenson but City supporting Lee Dixon!! YCNMIU<br /><br />-- Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:29 pm --<br /><br />From his Twitter Account
"Sad to be leaving BBC. Nothing lasts forever. New challenges ahead. Loved my time there. Wonderful people"
"Sad to be leaving BBC. Nothing lasts forever. New challenges ahead. Loved my time there. Wonderful people"
NipHolmes
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Mothball said:Breaking News: The BBC have got rid of one of their pundits but it is not Hansen,Sheare or Lawrenson but City supporting Lee Dixon!! YCNMIU
-- Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:29 pm --
From his Twitter Account
"Sad to be leaving BBC. Nothing lasts forever. New challenges ahead. Loved my time there. Wonderful people"
Arsenals would do good to sign him as a defensive coach.
squirtyflower
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Don't hold your breathoakiecokie said:Vincents Tackle said:Wow, I choose not to agree with an opinion that Hansen, Lawrensen and Shearer have a personal vendetta against Balotelli because they are racist and I must be a 'rag'? That's a pathetic statement to make.
Not that you care, but I am a genuine City fan, have been for over 20 years and never really felt the need to justify my love for City by being a member of a Blue-Moon. I have enough real friends to speak to if I want a conversation about football.
However seeing the attitude from some fans since we became big time with the 'everyone's out to get us' mentality is a bit disappointing and the reason I joined was to light heartedly suggest there may be a bit of an overreaction from some bordering on paranoia.
Most of the criticism aimed at City is out of jealousy and that's fine by me, it comes with success. Some of you seem to get really worked up by any little bit of negative press and I do understand that, personally I prefer to laugh it off.
Good luck with the campaign
I still await your response as to where you have been threatened by someone on this forum !!
m7mcfc
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They will not be replaced and come the first MOTD Saturday evening of the season and all those with input into this thread will be at your marks set go.. on what ever device you have got. As it ain't going to change.
Hansen can only wax lyrical about Liverpool and Man U. They must have editors and producers behind the scenes who could prevent this and tell him and his Southport sidekick Lawro to hold back but they do not.
I'm afraid come the the first MOTD of the season when we all go mad as none of the cnuts predict us to win the prem this thread will cause the site to meltdown
Hansen can only wax lyrical about Liverpool and Man U. They must have editors and producers behind the scenes who could prevent this and tell him and his Southport sidekick Lawro to hold back but they do not.
I'm afraid come the the first MOTD of the season when we all go mad as none of the cnuts predict us to win the prem this thread will cause the site to meltdown
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Wow - the topic heading held little interest for me so only dropped-in out of curiosity as to what had led to almost 60 pages. Some excellent stuff being reasoned and debated - Bluemoon at its finest.
My own view (which is similar to but better expressed previously by others) is that whilst totally unacceptable, the whole Hansen/BBC coverage says more about the anachronism that they have become rather than anything more sinister. The whole format is in desperate need of a shake-up and the appointment of credible presenters with fresh ideas and greater energy. I dare say one or two on here would make decent candidates!
My own view (which is similar to but better expressed previously by others) is that whilst totally unacceptable, the whole Hansen/BBC coverage says more about the anachronism that they have become rather than anything more sinister. The whole format is in desperate need of a shake-up and the appointment of credible presenters with fresh ideas and greater energy. I dare say one or two on here would make decent candidates!