Harold Shipman

what is interesting about this documentary is its concentrating on the victims...who were they,,,what was their life like...talking to relatives. A bit like the one about the Yorkshire Ripper that was on recently.

We all know they were monsters - like Fred and Rose West - but the attitude to the victims in both cases was interesting. With the Ripper the prevailing attitude of the Police was that they were girls of low morals it was only when "decent" girls were attacked that they took things more seriously. Likewise its clear that with Shipman the Police were happy with the word of a respected Doctor when he pronounced natural causes ( despite the fact he was known as Dr Death locally ) - in many ways it was a reflection of societies wider attitudes of the time.

Still persists today to be honest.
I totally agree, although I suspect that the authorities at the time as said in the documentary trusted the word of an educated Doctor in the community, until questioned (and I entirely agree with the notion that supposed class if you can call it that, rather normal folk), they just dismissed all the deaths as natural causes. It was almost the perfect storm from him playing God until I suspect he got greedy and thought up a new way of gaining from playing God.
 
Are there any older documentaries on him that I might be able to find? Same goes for the Yorkshire ripper and that other **** that was killing in Newton Heath and failsworth in the 70’s.
 
There must be people on here who have lost family members to this monster so I’ll give the jokes a miss.
My wife's best friend (they're both from Hyde) had him as their family doctor.
Suddenly her mother died in her mid 60s.
They strongly suspect Shipman killed her but can't prove it as she was cremated.

I do know she will never talk about it, must be horrible, the not knowing whether your mother was murdered.
 
I think the James Bolam dramatisation that was on about 15 years ago depicted him as crying when being interviewed by police.
Horrible arrogant wanker.
 
I was in the holding cell/Waiting area at Tameside magistrates with the lad who nicked his "Shipman's Surgery" sign. The paper shopped him when he tried to sell it to them. Could have held onto it till the shit stopped hitting the fan and made a decent bunce.

I was certainly surprised one of the red tops had some morals.
 
Good job he’s not Karen’s gp with all the ailments she has, we’d be doing a rip thread about her:)
 

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