Harry Kane

[richards30]

They could probably do a deal for Abraham on loan with option to buy. Kane plays every minute he's fit for for them having some different options up top would be good for them.

Would the club rivalry not stop a loan deal mate? If not then loaning Abraham and buying Ings could potentially be good business for them?

 

[richards30]

You forgot one significant detail Spurs are struggling financially with the new stadium debt and the affects of covid. You may have no choice but to sell.

They have apparently borrowed a load of money to be their debts off…………….. what could possibly go wrong! Lol

 

[JimB]

Every argument from Spurs fans focuses on us being desperate and them not needing to sell a player who wants to move, and totally disregards that Spurs need money and this summer is the best time to maximise that asset. You’re wasting your time mate, most football fans are blinkered.

I definitely don’t think that City are desperate. You will win trophies with or without Kane.

It’s every bit as much the case, I think, that City fans think that Spurs are desperate to sell. And that isn’t true either.

 

[Mid Wales blue]

Now that was a tasty challenge.

:-) Sergio Sergio.

 

[willipp]

I definitely don’t think that City are desperate. You will win trophies with or without Kane.

It’s every bit as much the case, I think, that City fans think that Spurs are desperate to sell. And that isn’t true either.

I think in reality, things like assets, maximising sale value etc mean very little to most fans. Thy want to see the best players on the pitch and doing their best for their club. If Spurs realistically get 120 million say for Kane, how much will they get to put back into players? Half of it, 70/80 million? That gets you what, the likes of Ben White and Ollie Watkins, hardly enough to give Spurs a chance of top 6, never mind top 4. If Spurs keep Kane then they have a great player still but i would imagine there will be very little investment in your squad so leaves you in the same position you are in now.

 

[JimB]

Same thing we here from the villa fans on the Grealish thread. Worth more to you than to us. Obviously they are because we are not a one man team. However, fuck Levy. He is not the messiah he's made out to be. In fact, he's such a genius he has taken you almost a billion into debt. You need to sell to improve your team / squad. With Kane in it last year, you managed the dizzy heights of SEVENTH. How do you suggest Sir Daniel manages to raise the necessary cash to even make top four? Visit the money tree?
It's the same scenario as with Bale. You need to sell your biggest asset, being totally reliant on him, and improve other positions and stop being the Harry Kane team and become Tottenham Hotspur.

I see this point all the time but, with respect, debt isn’t the inherently bad thing that you seem to think that it is.

But I’m aware that most posters on here couldn’t give a monkey’s about Spurs’ finances (other than hoping that we go bust, I guess!) so I’ll save such chat for the Spurs thread in General Discussion.

 

[JimB]

That is very weak. Rationally Spurs should sell.

What would be weaker, surely, is to accept a low offer?

 

[117 M34]

What won’t happen?

Plenty of players have wanted to leave their club, been denied the opportunity, and then knuckled down to play to their best the following season. If Kane has to stay at Spurs, I have no doubt that he will do likewise.

Of course Spurs don’t want their players to be unhappy. But they have a right to hold on to Kane if no potential buyers make an offer that even gets close to his value to the club.

Kane was last season’s top goal scorer and assister. He has an incredible goal ratio. He is phenomenally consistent from season to season. He is England’s captain. He is one of the two or three best all round strikers in the world. He will likely become the PL’s top goal scorer of all time. He will likely become the all time top England scorer. He is at his peak. He has never relied on pace so, contrary to the common claim, he is unlikely to deteriorate at a comparatively young age. He has three years remaining on his contract. His value to Spurs is far more than it will ever be to City (simply because City will flourish regardless of whether you sign him or not).

So, from Daniel Levy’s perspective, it would make no sense at all to sell Kane this summer for £100m.

From a purely financial perspective, I disagree that he is worth more to spurs than City.
For City, he could be the difference between winning the champions league or not. That would bring in lots of extra sponsors and additional prize money, which for the champions league is a large sum.
For spurs, next season kane staying or going won't make too much difference. Realistically you aren't going to be challenging for the title and or even getting top 4 so kane staying might make the difference between getting in the europa league or the europa conference league if you have a decent season or the europa conference league and nothing if nuno gets off to a slower start. Either way, financially there wouldn't be a great deal of difference.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I see this point all the time but, with respect, debt isn’t the inherently bad thing that you seem to think that it is.

But I’m aware that most posters on here couldn’t give a monkey’s about Spurs’ finances (other than hoping that we go bust, I guess!) so I’ll save such chat for the Spurs thread in General Discussion.

Nay, lad - we only want Rags 'n Dippers to go bust. And yer right about debt - MANUre have been debt-ridden for years, and managed to keep 'debt' out of any FFP regulations.

 

[Asa's left peg]

I see this point all the time but, with respect, debt isn’t the inherently bad thing that you seem to think that it is.

But I’m aware that most posters on here couldn’t give a monkey’s about Spurs’ finances (other than hoping that we go bust, I guess!) so I’ll save such chat for the Spurs thread in General Discussion.

You are the guy who wrote FFP, and I claim my £5.

( I don't want Spurs to go bust, BTW - us no history clubs have to stick together)

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

I definitely don’t think that City are desperate. You will win trophies with or without Kane.

It’s every bit as much the case, I think, that City fans think that Spurs are desperate to sell. And that isn’t true either.

Okay, maybe not desperate but the player wants out and he’s worth more this year than next and you do need the money. I’d love to see him at City, but like it or not, finances are a big part of the game that can’t be ignored, no matter how much we want him. I’m guessing we would probably go to about £130m but whatever the figure is we have in mind we won’t go above it. That’s a common misconception about our club amongst rival fans.

 

[JimB]

You talk some sense, main thing I’d have issue with it players not being allowed to leave and knuckling down etc, maybe however the theme at Spurs is when your top players want to leave, they do. Bale, Modric, Berbatov, Carrick. I actually can’t think of a time a top spurs player wanted to leave then didn’t.

Modric in 2011. Wanted to join Chelsea. Stayed one more season. Played brilliantly. Got a move to Real Madrid the following summer.

But, yes, ultimately players that want to leave will get their move. The difference, thus far, between those other sales and Kane is that they all went for top dollar. I don’t believe that City’s offer comes close to that yet, as far as Levy is concerned.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I see this point all the time but, with respect, debt isn’t the inherently bad thing that you seem to think that it is.

But I’m aware that most posters on here couldn’t give a monkey’s about Spurs’ finances (other than hoping that we go bust, I guess!) so I’ll save such chat for the Spurs thread in General Discussion.

I am very aware that debt is not always a bad thing but the level of your debt is, shall we say, rather unhealthy. Could I ask you, are you comfortable with the level of Tottenham's debt?

 

[BillyShears]

Modric in 2011. Wanted to join Chelsea. Stayed one more season. Played brilliantly. Got a move to Real Madrid the following summer.

But, yes, ultimately players that want to leave will get their move. The difference, thus far, between those other sales and Kane is that they all went for top dollar. I don’t believe that City’s offer comes close to that yet, as far as Levy is concerned.

Kane will get his move IMO. I suspect what's happened is that Levy doesn't want Kane going on strike and doesn't want a public shit fight with him, and therefore there's been some kind of private agreement that there's a financial tipping point at which the deal gets done. I don't think it's going to look good for ENIC if Kane goes fully public with a transfer request and an interview about broken promises.

The valuation is sort of moot for me because City want him and he wants City. Whether it's 120, 130, or 150 I don't really care. Landing the player is the important thing.

 

[bigdavecox90]

Similar to what I'm reading regards Varane/Utd - do we think there's a part of Kane that could be using our interest for an improved contract offer at Spurs?

 

[JimB]

Okay, maybe not desperate but the player wants out and he’s worth more this year than next and you do need the money. I’d love to see him at City, but like it or not, finances are a big part of the game that can’t be ignored, no matter how much we want him. I’m guessing we would probably go to about £130m but whatever the figure is we have in mind we won’t go above it. That’s a common misconception about our club amongst rival fans.

Actually, I think it’s well known that City don’t go in for huge transfer fees - or, at least, haven’t thus far. That’s United’s gig.

 

[JimB]

Similar to what I'm reading regards Varane/Utd - do we think there's a part of Kane that could be using our interest for an improved contract offer at Spurs?

Definitely not. He wants to win things. He stands a far, far better chance of doing that - and doing it regularly - at City.

No question, he wants to leave Spurs.

 

[Centurions]

Similar to what I'm reading regards Varane/Utd - do we think there's a part of Kane that could be using our interest for an improved contract offer at Spurs?

No.

 

[JimB]

I am very aware that debt is not always a bad thing but the level of your debt is, shall we say, rather unhealthy. Could I ask you, are you comfortable with the level of Tottenham's debt?

If it’s okay by you, I’ll reply properly in the Spurs thread.

 

[richards30]

Kane will get his move IMO. I suspect what's happened is that Levy doesn't want Kane going on strike and doesn't want a public shit fight with him, and therefore there's been some kind of private agreement that there's a financial tipping point at which the deal gets done. I don't think it's going to look good for ENIC if Kane goes fully public with a transfer request and an interview about broken promises.

The valuation is sort of moot for me because City want him and he wants City. Whether it's 120, 130, or 150 I don't really care. Landing the player is the important thing.

I don’t think city would risk pissing pep off either? Obviously there is a final amount we won’t go over but there will be a figure that the Kane camp will be aware of that city will pay and it will be up to them to help get the move done as well.