Harry Kane

[LongsightM13]

It is interesting watching the vote slowly shift more towards "yes". Seems people have short memories.

Seems like a long time ago Kane was stinking out the Euros and running in treacle.

Or people realise that recency bias based on performances for a team managed by Gareth fucking Southgate is a stupid way to assess his potential value to City

 

[InLevyITrust]

@InLevyITrust - it seems to me Levy is in a stick or twist situation. I assume Nuno will want funds to build his squad, and there is obvious debt to pay for the stadium (which I’m sure is well secured but COVID wouldn’t have helped)… what other assets could levy use to raise significant capital (Kane and to a lesser extent son aside ?)

I maybe mistaken but I don’t see another £50M+ player in the Spurs squad… so I would have assumed the timing to cash-in on Kane would have been now. Seems to me after Grealish signing and the post COVID market that £130M will be the compromise rate for Spurs to sell and give Nuno time to get his bodies in line

If we needed funds we would sell Kane openly, that has not happened, we have debt yes, are we desperate no.

Would I accept £130M for Kane, I wouldn't say it was an unfair fee no, maybe an add on for CL or so but in or around £135M, no problems at all for me. Does that mean I think it will happen, honestly no idea. What I will say is, Levy is a ****, he will have no hurt keeping Kane, it will not fizz on him. According to Modric he told him if he refused to play he will be sent to the reserves. I mean no disrespect in this, honestly, but you have never been in a situation like this before, with a player of the calibre/rep/profile of Kane. If we were so desperate for money I doubt if Levy would have bought a golf course last month.

 

[johnnytapia]

Its possibly Larne mate. I see the confusion both begin with L.

No confusion, Linfield are your scheduled opponents should you make the Europa cup 4th round qualifying round. Or is it Bangor? So confusing these days when your season starts before the top teams get involved.

 

[crazyg]

Walker, captain? Really? Gimmie some of that weed.

Did you read the preceding comment in the post before typing that reply? Perhaps I should have highlighted the words "Kane is vice" for you to join the dots and link the word "vice" with "Walker", who has a well-known penchant for entertaining ladies of "negotiable virtue".
As for your further comment, apart rom my (many) prescriptive medications, I have never smoked or taken drugs, and at 71 have certainly no intention of doing so in the future.
Other than that slight quibble, let's carry on with the banter!
;-)

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

It is interesting watching the vote slowly shift more towards "yes". Seems people have short memories.

Seems like a long time ago Kane was stinking out the Euros and running in treacle.

Tho is similar to my concern. His numbers are v strong and I’ve been moaning all season last year about lack of striker depth. But this is mega money for a 28 y o with injury issues and may be on a Rooney style trajectory in terms of burn out by 30.

hope not, but that’s my worry. Would prefer Haaland but assume we aren’t getting the right signals on that.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If we needed funds we would sell Kane openly, that has not happened, we have debt yes, are we desperate no.

Would I accept £130M for Kane, I wouldn't say it was an unfair fee no, maybe an add on for CL or so but in or around £135M, no problems at all for me. Does that mean I think it will happen, honestly no idea.

I think that sort of fee is bad for the game. Obviously if that's what you lot insist on we'll have to pay, but do you not think you are ruining football by putting that level of inflationary pressure on the market? You did it before with bale and we thought that was a one off, but it looks like you are intent on getting as much blood/oil money as you can from our owners with no regard for morals or the good of the game. I honestly thought you were about doing things the right way and am surprised you would sell your clubs soul this way :-(

 

[better dead than red]

Tho is similar to my concern. His numbers are v strong and I’ve been moaning all season last year about lack of striker depth. But this is mega money for a 28 y o with injury issues and may be on a Rooney style trajectory in terms of burn out by 30.

hope not, but that’s my worry. Would prefer Haaland but assume we aren’t getting the right signals on that.

I understand your point but Rooney took shit care of his body, allegedly, during his playing career. If you are supposed to treat your body like a temple, he treats his like a tent.

 

[Bluefen]

If we needed funds we would sell Kane openly, that has not happened, we have debt yes, are we desperate no.

Would I accept £130M for Kane, I wouldn't say it was an unfair fee no, maybe an add on for CL or so but in or around £135M, no problems at all for me. Does that mean I think it will happen, honestly no idea. What I will say is, Levy is a ****, he will have no hurt keeping Kane, it will not fizz on him. According to Modric he told him if he refused to play he will be sent to the reserves.

I think we are agreement, i can’t see us matching the supposed Levy valuation and equally I can’t see levy accepting the same as what we allegedly are getting Grealish for…so the answer probably lays somewhere in the middle.

 

[InLevyITrust]

I think that sort of fee is bad for the game. Obviously if that's what you lot insist on we'll have to pay, but do you not think you are ruining football by putting that level of inflationary pressure on the market? You did it before with bale and we thought that was a one off, but it looks like you are intent on getting as much blood/oil money as you can from our owners with no regard for morals or the good of the game. I honestly thought you were about doing things the right way and am surprised you would sell your clubs soul this way :-(

lol fuck off mate, where is my swiss cheese you slag. :)

 

[Mancity1980]

Nowt wrong with it IMO, getting baited and gave a bit back.

Personally not really arsed about the Kane transfer tbh. The fee, Kane's age and increasing fitness/injury worries. I don't think I've ever seen him make the difference on the big stage either and we put enough past the dross in the league already.

Not sure how Spurs fans feel about it all, or how they objectively rate his chances making the difference for a club competing on all fronts but I'm not convinced tbh.

With the kind of money Levy wants we'd be much better off focusing on Halaand imo.

If Haaland is available in 12 months for a buyout clause of £70 million it makes more sense.

 

[Phil Mitchell Foden]

Or people realise that recency bias based on performances for a team managed by Gareth fucking Southgate is a stupid way to assess his potential value to City

That's fair mate but the concerns are real. Kane has never delivered on the big stage, for Spurs or England. He grinds out consistent averages but his fitness looks increasingly dodgy.

Rooney fell off a cliff as he approached his thirties. It happens. I think Kane has peaked personally.

I have no doubts he'd improve us, just not sure the deal makes sense overall for the costs and the risks involved.

I think we'd be better off persevering with Jesus/Torres up front, with Sterling or Kev filling in as a false 9 when needed. Save the money and go all out for Halaand next summer.

 

[Mancity1980]

Again no problem with him going, but pay the rate for a player of his calibre.

A player of his calibre, age, injury record, position, style of play. I think the going rate when you take all that into account is considerable less than the num

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

That's fair mate but the concerns are real. Kane has never delivered on the big stage, for Spurs or England. He grinds out consistent averages but his fitness looks increasingly dodgy.

Rooney fell off a cliff as he approached his thirties. It happens. I think Kane has peaked personally.

I have no doubts he'd improve us, just not sure the deal makes sense overall for the costs and the risks involved.

I think we'd be better off persevering with Jesus/Torres up front, with Sterling or Kev filling in as a false 9 when needed. Save the money and go all out for Halaand next summer.

Bang on. Pleased we have owners rich enough to make a mistake this big tbh

 

[InLevyITrust]

A player of his calibro, age, injury record, position, style of play. I think the going rate when you take all that into account is considerable less than the num

England captain, 27, Striker, style of play... WTF? On target for PL top goal scorer, his injury record on a whole is no worse most.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That's fair mate but the concerns are real. Kane has never delivered on the big stage, for Spurs or England. He grinds out consistent averages but his fitness looks increasingly dodgy.

Rooney fell off a cliff as he approached his thirties. It happens. I think Kane has peaked personally.

I have no doubts he'd improve us, just not sure the deal makes sense overall for the costs and the risks involved.

I think we'd be better off persevering with Jesus/Torres up front, with Sterling or Kev filling in as a false 9 when needed. Save the money and go all out for Halaand next summer.

To counter your ascertains, he has a World Cup golden boot and if we sign him, it’d be lovely to see him sail past Rooney’s England scoring record and Shearer’s PL record.

Whether it is worth the money is subjective. It’s something to ease the pain of us spending £130m on him though.

 

[Mancity1980]

England captain, 27, Striker, style of play... WTF? On target for PL top goal scorer, his injury record on a whole is no worse most.

He is 28, here is his injury record:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-kane/verletzungen/spieler/132098.

In a nutshell he has peaked, will be targeted by defenders, has no resell value and will get more injuries. He no doubt is a player we need and has a high valuation but £160 million? Do me a favour.

 

[InLevyITrust]

He is 28, here is his injury record:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-kane/verletzungen/spieler/132098.

In a nutshell he has peaked, will be targeted by defenders, has no resell value and will get more injuries. He no doubt is a player we need and has a high valuation but £160 million? Do me a favour.

I've said, £130 is fine, his age typo due to Stella, apologies.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Why is resale value so relevant?

We aren't reliant on selling first team players on for transfer funds. That's what CFG signings and the academy are for.

 

[Mancity1980]

Why is resale value so relevant?

We aren't reliant on selling first team players on for transfer funds. That's what CFG signings and the academy are for.

It is very important if a player is ever surplus to requirements at a future date and it is reason most record signings are younger than Kane currently is (there are exceptions of course).

 

[Mancity1980]

I've said, £130 is fine, his age typo due to Stella, apologies.

Hmmm, that maybe the final number (I take it you mean millions!?), although I think our board are aiming lower.