Have Ajax thrown in the towel being an entity in big European Competitions?

SambaStyle

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The Ajax from two seasons ago were by all accounts a top 7-10 team in the world. They were great. The iteration with De Jong, Ziyech and De Ligt were also a top 7-10 team under Ten Hag. Current Ajax? Signing Akpom from the Championship after fire selling any remaining talent they have left!

Sad state of affairs.
 
Yet another victim of a rigged system where no-one outside of the top four leagues and PSG are ever going to be consistently reaching the latter stages of the CL.

Arsenal are second pot this season. A team that hasn't even qualified for the CL since 2017. Let that sink in. If you're from a 'big' league, you get an easy ride from day one.
 
Ajax sadly can't keep hold off their best players because the money is too good for them and also the players all want their dream moves to bigger clubs.

Some clubs are victims of being in a country that isn't like England, France, Spain, Italy and Germany.
Id say all clubs are victims outside of the big 5 leagues( the dippers will be gutted they arent in this group) it’s a joke that a team can win their league and not automatically qualify for the Champions League. A bigger joke that a team can win the thing without being able to win their domestic league.
 
Fuck them. They were one of those pretentious teams who supported the FFP back when the elites created it. That's the thing about most of these so called "holier than thou" teams, they go around talking about history, blindly signing useless agreements with the elites "historically great" teams and playing gatekeepers for a system that has been rigged in favour of the apex predators in the food chain.

Luckily, certain teams especially in the Italian and French league have come to see the true nature of the FFP and UEFA, Spain is a different issue all together as the other teams seem to have some unwritten agreement consenting to get fucked by the top two teams.

Unfortunately teams in other leagues like the Bundesliga and Eredivise still think of themselves as principled teams with a lot of history and have taken it upon themselves to protect the "integrity" of the beautiful game. Integrity?
 
Despite being part of the old G14, I will always respect Ajax above all other clubs in Europe. Ajax are the reason City play the football we do, the reason we win trophies in the manner we do.

The great Barça teams and City under Pep are just copies of the Ajax system. From Cruyff to Michels to Reynolds all the way back in the early 1900s.

It’s a shame that clubs like Ajax, and to the same extent clubs like Galatasaray, Olympiacos, Legia Warsaw, Dynamo Kyiv etc. are just left behind by the rigged system that England, Spain, Italy and Germany have carved out for themselves.

The 2019 Champions League Final between Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool was contested between two clubs who hadn’t won their First Division title for 58 years and 29 years, respectively… a combined 87 years.
The 2019 Championship Play-off Final between Aston Villa and Derby County was contested between two clubs who hadn’t won their First Division title for 38 years and 44 years, respectively… a combined 82 years.

That’s not right, for me. Ajax did get to the semifinals that season but Crystal Palace and Everton have higher revenues than Ajax.

And even if Ajax were part of the old G14 and were part of the move to bring in FFP, it’s not exactly like City fans can say a lot about that since we were a club that jumped at the chance to join the European Super League, that didn’t even include the likes of Ajax yet did include ourselves, Arsenal and Spurs, three clubs who had never even won the Champions League/European Cup at that point, and Ajax had won more European trophies than City, Arsenal and Spurs combined.

I know that the Dutch and Belgian leagues have talked about joining and becoming a Dutch-Belgian Super League to create more revenue for their clubs. Even if that comes into fruition, I don’t see how they’ll compete at the top with the rigged clubs/leagues. Ajax will pretty much be stuck where they are now as a club.
 
It’s a shame that clubs like Ajax, and to the same extent clubs like Galatasaray, Olympiacos, Legia Warsaw, Dynamo Kyiv etc. are just left behind by the rigged system that England, Spain, Italy and Germany have carved out for themselves.

They haven't been left behind by any system - if anything clubs like the ones you mentioned have been incredbly well protected by things like the 8 champions spots and seedings in the CL.


The reason these teams can't compete anymore is simply that they don't have the TV money. A team in a country of 15 million people will never be able to compete with a team that gets over £100m a year in domestic TV money.
 

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