He is Risen...

[80s Shorts]

I've just watched that, not for the first time, and it raises an interesting philosophical question:

If you knew your name was going to live down the centuries and your teachings, whatever they were, would endure and be taught throughout the world for the rest of human history, but in order to do it, you'd have to experience a death like that - would you do it?

We all seek to impose ourselves on this world as much as we are able. None of us can live forever, but we try to find ways of making our mark.

I wonder, in the world we inhabit today, how much deferred veneration people are prepared to accept. Not as much as that, I reckon.

We do not all seek to impose ourselves upon this world as much as we are able GDM. The rest ? a little silly.

Upon reflection that may have been a bit OTT, but it is natural for many to want to make their mark. It is only natural.

It is, sadly, what turns idealistic men into genocidal monsters.

I stand by the thrust of my original question though: would Jesus (or any of us) put up with that type of death (knowing we've all got to die one day), if we knew our name was going to be influential throughout the world two thousand years later.

Surely that's not a silly question to ask?

-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:08 am --

It was GDM that was posing the question of somebody WANTING their name to live down the centuries. Nobody else.

I think that's a little unfair. You've taken a bit of licence with what I posted.

I never asked if anyone WANTED their name to live down the centuries per se, I merely posed the question, would someone endure that type of death, if they knew it would. There is a subtle difference.

and as I said earlier it is a silly question.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

We do not all seek to impose ourselves upon this world as much as we are able GDM. The rest ? a little silly.

Upon reflection that may have been a bit OTT, but it is natural for many to want to make their mark. It is only natural.

It is, sadly, what turns idealistic men into genocidal monsters.

I stand by the thrust of my original question though: would Jesus (or any of us) put up with that type of death (knowing we've all got to die one day), if we knew our name was going to be influential throughout the world two thousand years later.

Surely that's not a silly question to ask?

-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:08 am --

It was GDM that was posing the question of somebody WANTING their name to live down the centuries. Nobody else.

I think that's a little unfair. You've taken a bit of licence with what I posted.

I never asked if anyone WANTED their name to live down the centuries per se, I merely posed the question, would someone endure that type of death, if they knew it would. There is a subtle difference.

and as I said earlier it is a silly question.

Ok, fair enough. Certainly don't want to fall put over a philosophical question FFS!

Have a good night :-)

 

[80s Shorts]

Upon reflection that may have been a bit OTT, but it is natural for many to want to make their mark. It is only natural.

It is, sadly, what turns idealistic men into genocidal monsters.

I stand by the thrust of my original question though: would Jesus (or any of us) put up with that type of death (knowing we've all got to die one day), if we knew our name was going to be influential throughout the world two thousand years later.

Surely that's not a silly question to ask?

-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:08 am --


I think that's a little unfair. You've taken a bit of licence with what I posted.

I never asked if anyone WANTED their name to live down the centuries per se, I merely posed the question, would someone endure that type of death, if they knew it would. There is a subtle difference.

and as I said earlier it is a silly question.

Ok, fair enough. Certainly don't want to fall put over a philosophical question FFS!

Have a good night :-)

Maybe I should have said unanswerable.

Although I do have a saying written somewhere,

"You never live so fully as when you gamble with your life".


Goodnight buddy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

"You never live so fully as when you gamble with your life".

I'm genuinely struggling to think of a more appropriate quote to put on my headstone, as cliched as that may sound.

Thanks for that!

Off to sleep now :-)

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Twats like brassneck sat there eating chocolate eggs while typing his blasphemy make me sick. As far as I'm concerned the fuckers that don't believe in Jesus and the resurrection should have to go to work and not get a 4 day weekend.

I blaspheme quite a lot. Will I go to hell ?

Anybody that dies without Christ will be eternally seperated from God and will go to hell.That includes blasphemers and those that perversely obtain satisfaction from smearing Gods name.

I repeat, the greatest scheme and deception of the devil is convincing the world that he and God does not exist.

Unfortunately his plan is working in the world today and in this forum.

Open your eyes, we are in the final phase of the world and Jesus is coming back very soon to take those that repented and lived their lives according to his teachings with him to heaven.The rest that remain will be at the mercy of the new world order.

At this point those that do not believe in God, which will be most, will succumb and belief the explanations and lies of the new world order and become lost forever.

This is serious lads,.... it aint a joke. Do your research (even youtube will provide a lot of info for you), read your bible,pray, honestly open your hearts to God and he will reveal himself to you.

Are you on a wind up mate?

That "greatest scheme" you mentioned earlier, it's fucking bollocks. I must be satan's henchman for saying so, right? I've never met satan.

With the greatest of respect, stop hoping for the second coming. Jesus ain't coming to save you, but if he ever existed he only wanted other men to be good to each other.

(stop killing, persecuting, being twats...)

I'm only on page 5, but if that is seriously your outlook, that you think disbelievers are hellbound, you should timewarp back to the middle ages. You'll find friends there.

The rest of us will just crack on.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Atheists don't condemn the god squad to Hades

Dude, why would an atheist do that? Much easier to condemn the god squad to stupidity or idiocy. Already there springs to mind.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Anybody that dies without Christ will be eternally seperated from God and will go to hell.That includes blasphemers and those that perversely obtain satisfaction from smearing Gods name.

I repeat, the greatest scheme and deception of the devil is convincing the world that he and God does not exist.

Unfortunately his plan is working in the world today and in this forum.

Open your eyes, we are in the final phase of the world and Jesus is coming back very soon to take those that repented and lived their lives according to his teachings with him to heaven.The rest that remain will be at the mercy of the new world order.

At this point those that do not believe in God, which will be most, will succumb and belief the explanations and lies of the new world order and become lost forever.

This is serious lads,.... it aint a joke. Do your research (even youtube will provide a lot of info for you), read your bible,pray, honestly open your hearts to God and he will reveal himself to you.

If 'god' can send so many good and honest people into eternal damnation then he's no god of mine.

Very good comment and I appreciate it.

Thats why I implore you to do research and try and pray, just try it and see.

God has given us the freedom to choose our path in life and we all be accountable for our actions when we die.

How do you define good and honest?, is it loving your family and friends, not stealing or telling lies, or not committting murder.

That is a good approach but God also tells us to love our enemies and love everybody like we love ourselves. He also tells also to-
- abstain from anything that glorifies sin and vandalizes the flesh such as sexual immorlity ( which includes checking a girl out when she walks by, watching porn and fornication),drunkiness and smoking.

-abstain from idolatory. Now this is very important because the definition of idolatory is anything that you put or prioritize ahead of God. It could be a musician or pop stars- the devil has compelled a lot of young kids nowadays to idolize pop stars like beyonce and Jayz. It could also be things like a football club. You notice how we all sing bluemoon at the start of every match almost as if we are worhipping the club. That is idolatory.

So you see how easy it is to fall into the trap of sin.

This is the deception that is taking place at the end times, the devil is using the media and other tools to decieve others and make them turn away from God because he knows the end is near and he is desperate to make sure that many people end up in hell with him.

This is why you have to WAKE UP NOW and open your heart to God so he can reveal the truth and the real defination of being good and honest and so that you will not be eternally damned when you die.

Dont get me wrong I am not a saint and I commit sin as well. Last night I watched the seasons premier of Game of thrones twice in a row knowing fully well it is full of sex and unneccesarily voilence and another tool of the devil to glorify sin and lead people astray.

But the difference between me and you is that I KNOW THAT THERE IS A GOD AND THIS IS A DIVINE PREVILEDGE because i know I can always turn to Him for salvation and repentance.

I am not blind.

Open your eyes, minds and heart and God will reveal himself to you.

IT IS NOT GODS INTENTION THAT WE END UP IN HELL .THAT IS WHY HE SENT JESUS CHRIST ON EARTH TO DIE FOR OUR SINS and has given us the freedom to make the right choice.

Make the right choice.

That post was without doubt the most rambling piece of shit I've read on the internet. I'd dissect it but it'd be pointless, the author is blind despite his protestations.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

If 'god' can send so many good and honest people into eternal damnation then he's no god of mine.

Very good comment and I appreciate it.

Thats why I implore you to do research and try and pray, just try it and see.

God has given us the freedom to choose our path in life and we all be accountable for our actions when we die.

How do you define good and honest?, is it loving your family and friends, not stealing or telling lies, or not committting murder.

That is a good approach but God also tells us to love our enemies and love everybody like we love ourselves. He also tells also to-
- abstain from anything that glorifies sin and vandalizes the flesh such as sexual immorlity ( which includes checking a girl out when she walks by, watching porn and fornication),drunkiness and smoking.

-abstain from idolatory. Now this is very important because the definition of idolatory is anything that you put or prioritize ahead of God. It could be a musician or pop stars- the devil has compelled a lot of young kids nowadays to idolize pop stars like beyonce and Jayz. It could also be things like a football club. You notice how we all sing bluemoon at the start of every match almost as if we are worhipping the club. That is idolatory.

So you see how easy it is to fall into the trap of sin.

This is the deception that is taking place at the end times, the devil is using the media and other tools to decieve others and make them turn away from God because he knows the end is near and he is desperate to make sure that many people end up in hell with him.

This is why you have to WAKE UP NOW and open your heart to God so he can reveal the truth and the real defination of being good and honest and so that you will not be eternally damned when you die.

Dont get me wrong I am not a saint and I commit sin as well. Last night I watched the seasons premier of Game of thrones twice in a row knowing fully well it is full of sex and unneccesarily voilence and another tool of the devil to glorify sin and lead people astray.

But the difference between me and you is that I KNOW THAT THERE IS A GOD AND THIS IS A DIVINE PREVILEDGE because i know I can always turn to Him for salvation and repentance.

I am not blind.

Open your eyes, minds and heart and God will reveal himself to you.

IT IS NOT GODS INTENTION THAT WE END UP IN HELL .THAT IS WHY HE SENT JESUS CHRIST ON EARTH TO DIE FOR OUR SINS and has given us the freedom to make the right choice.

Make the right choice.

you are either on the wind up

if so well done!!

if not

i can comfortably say that you are probably the most deluded indoctrinated under-educated, scared , tiny, timid delusional fuckwit in all fuckwittery.

you do know that your lord Jesus shares the same birthday, death, rise after 3 days, miracles, healing , sign of the cross, (pagan by the way , represents the zodiac and stars) as at least 80 other "gods"?




seriously i could go on but im saving the best bits if you reply


you may want to sit down and re asses your whole life

I fkn lol'd.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

If having a gander at a good looking lady as she walks by is a sin, I am well and truly fucked. I should also bid a fine farewell to the gratuitous pictures thread.

If you look then you have sinned in your heart and there is no difference to actual fornicating.
Think about it, you look, then admire, then those sexual thoughts start streaming into your mind( ooh, i will like to do this and do that to her... you know what i mean) and this may even compel you to go and actually commit the act.

So dont be fooled by the devils deception.

But now you know, and I hope it remains in your subconsious henceforth.

If remembering fit birds is a sin, I've been sinning since before I knew who Jesus even was. If I'm going to hell for it, I hope the bird sinned too.

BTW, you might want to pass on this "message" of yours to the priests who roam the world bearing Jesus' precious name.


You can't be serious, with the "devil deception" shite, but I'll play along.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

FFS, we get rid of one religious preaching basket case and another one pops up.

You're welcome to your imaginary zombie god and I respect your right to believe in him, but don't start preaching your bollocks on here.

As you said, I am entitled to my opinions as you yours and I am answering questions and giving replies to comments.

Surely it is a very sad thought to assume that you intend to control what people say in this forum as that defeats its purpose. What is more damning and disconcerting is the possibility of the thought that talking about God in this forum is now abhorent and distastful enough to compel people to complain and make threats.

Ultimately, I am not forcing anybody to believe in anything or anyone as we have the freedom of choice and action but i am vehemently obliged to speak out about my belief and faith when the situation ( or thread ) calls for it.

It's not the talking about God, more the calling people hellbound sinners for fancying a bird.

A benevolent God wouldn't punish a man for natural feelings. Instincts even.

What is disconcerting, abhorrent and distasteful to me is that a grown man feels OK with riding his high religious horse while condemning his common man to hell, a hell which the other bloke doesn't even believe exists.

I don't force it on anyone either, but when I come across someone who is so ignorant, yet thinks they are pious, like you, I am also well within my rights to say so.