He is Risen

[blueinsa]

Just a small point but the Historical Jesus is pretty well supported actually.

The MEN would have their red pens out in disagreement mate.

 

[Davs 19]

Just a small point but the Historical Jesus is pretty well supported actually.

The MEN would have their red pens out in disagreement mate.

Early leavers ia all........

 

[101toMR]

If that was a care home or post office it'd have been shut and turned into a line dance studio years ago ;-)

 

[TangerineSteve17]

I agree it isn't nice to mock believers on their special days. God knows they have their faith tested enough throught-out their lives .

I actually mean that sincerely.

 

[stony]

I agree it isn't nice to mock believers on their special days. God knows they have their faith tested enough throught-out their lives .

I actually mean that sincerely.

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[Helmet Cole]

Just a small point but the Historical Jesus is pretty well supported actually.

The MEN would have their red pens out in disagreement mate.

 

[bluemiester]

To complain about taking the mick out of Christianity at Easter is utterly ridiculous. Its the most appropriate day of the year to do so. Even the most ardent Christians accept that entire faith collapses without the resurrection. If ever there is an appropriate time to highlight how insanely stupid the whole things is, it is as Easter.

If you want to ask people to be more respectful, I can't think of a worse time than on the day they celebrate the cosmic zombie rising from the dead. I seriously can't imagine anyone asking for respect for Scientologists of June 6th (the anniversary of the maiden voyage of the freewinds!).

Because there's no reason to be a dick to people on a day that they consider holy because you're so chuffed that you've figured out all of the answers to the philosophical questions that mankind has had for the past million years.

But there is no day that is more appropriate to point out the absurdity of the Christian faith than at Easter. If you are going to critical of the Christian faith the resurrection is the key battle ground. This is where there can be no distinction between so called moderates and fundamentalists etc. You either believe in the resurrection or you aren't a Christian, it's a simple as that.

I appreciate why you've made the point you have, but I think your good intentions have been misplaced this time. If you think about it, so much of Christian teaching can be respected, but any rational person has to draw the line at the resurrection. Take virtually any other unbelievable event in the NT and you'll be able to find Christian apologists explaining it in a believable way (ie Lazurus being a resuscitation etc). Take the teachings of Jesus and though it's easy to pick holes in them, by and large you can't criticize too much. Even the inaccurate history and geography can be reasoned. But the insanity of the resurrection is one area where Christians don't budge and Easter is without doubt the ideal time to challenge this.

 

[Damocles]

To complain about taking the mick out of Christianity at Easter is utterly ridiculous. Its the most appropriate day of the year to do so. Even the most ardent Christians accept that entire faith collapses without the resurrection. If ever there is an appropriate time to highlight how insanely stupid the whole things is, it is as Easter.

If you want to ask people to be more respectful, I can't think of a worse time than on the day they celebrate the cosmic zombie rising from the dead. I seriously can't imagine anyone asking for respect for Scientologists of June 6th (the anniversary of the maiden voyage of the freewinds!).

Because there's no reason to be a dick to people on a day that they consider holy because you're so chuffed that you've figured out all of the answers to the philosophical questions that mankind has had for the past million years.

But there is no day that is more appropriate to point out the absurdity of the Christian faith than at Easter. If you are going to critical of the Christian faith the resurrection is the key battle ground. This is where there can be no distinction between so called moderates and fundamentalists etc. You either believe in the resurrection or you aren't a Christian, it's a simple as that.

I appreciate why you've made the point you have, but I think your good intentions have been misplaced this time. If you think about it, so much of Christian teaching can be respected, but any rational person has to draw the line at the resurrection. Take virtually any other unbelievable event in the NT and you'll be able to find Christian apologists explaining it in a believable way (ie Lazurus being a resuscitation etc). Take the teachings of Jesus and though it's easy to pick holes in them, by and large you can't criticize too much. Even the inaccurate history and geography can be reasoned. But the insanity of the resurrection is one area where Christians don't budge and Easter is without doubt the ideal time to challenge this.

There is no war you madman. There are a few sets of people who hold differing belief systems on philosophical issues, some of which bleed into other areas.

My good intentions aren't misplaced, you've misplaced your basic human decency because you want to point out absurdity to people who already recognise absurdity and don't care.

 

[Two Gun Bob]

If that was a care home or post office it'd have been shut and turned into a line dance studio years ago ;-)

Humanistic evaluation and that is all
We all interpret things differently which is what makes us all inherently human
I do not see a dance studio.
I see Eight two bedroom flats and four bedsits with an overall yield of 7 %

However if I turn my head slightly to the left I see a priest as happy as Larry the lamb and earning a yield of 38% with
a three bedroom furnished house and a vestry thrown in for good measure
And all for exercising a minimum outlay of sweat and exertion.
Some talk on this thread of folk ridiculing another mans religion.
Not ridicule but exercising a point of view in a democratic society with no worry of persecution or blasphemy laws.

Jesus died and Jesus rose again to save us all
In Catholicism their are three gods in one
He sent down his only son (which is in essence was himself) to die for our sins and show us all he cared
Personally If he cared enough I would have expected him to provide a few more Arks and lifebelts for his earthly creations than just the prescribed one albeit captained magnificently by that antipodean Russel Crow .
Drowning is a ghastly end and all without even trial or DNA evidence to substantiate the allegations of being naughty sinful or wicked .

Fact of the matter is that getting nailed to a tree for mass murder and genocide would be a justifiable end back in the day for a crime so heinous as to be the killing butchery and slaughter of a full planet .

Anyway Amen and do enjoy your eggs which in my humble opinion are the real meaning of Easter along with an extended holiday treat from work.

Asda eggs are now down to £1 for the medium sized ones so get your sandals on and bag em quick !

 

[bluemiester]

Because there's no reason to be a dick to people on a day that they consider holy because you're so chuffed that you've figured out all of the answers to the philosophical questions that mankind has had for the past million years.

But there is no day that is more appropriate to point out the absurdity of the Christian faith than at Easter. If you are going to critical of the Christian faith the resurrection is the key battle ground. This is where there can be no distinction between so called moderates and fundamentalists etc. You either believe in the resurrection or you aren't a Christian, it's a simple as that.

I appreciate why you've made the point you have, but I think your good intentions have been misplaced this time. If you think about it, so much of Christian teaching can be respected, but any rational person has to draw the line at the resurrection. Take virtually any other unbelievable event in the NT and you'll be able to find Christian apologists explaining it in a believable way (ie Lazurus being a resuscitation etc). Take the teachings of Jesus and though it's easy to pick holes in them, by and large you can't criticize too much. Even the inaccurate history and geography can be reasoned. But the insanity of the resurrection is one area where Christians don't budge and Easter is without doubt the ideal time to challenge this.

There is no war you madman. There are a few sets of people who hold differing belief systems on philosophical issues, some of which bleed into other areas.

My good intentions aren't misplaced, you've misplaced your basic human decency because you want to point out absurdity to people who already recognise absurdity and don't care.

Obviously they are, as you are criticizing people for highlighting the absurdity of something, based on bad timing, when it's in fact the most appropriate time. I just think you didn't recognize the significance of what is celebrated at Easter to those who oppose religious faith. Most atheists don't have a problem with the teaching in the Sermon on the Mount for example and for obvious reasons. Hence you'll see very little reasoned criticism of it. However, there is nothing in the NT that goes against Atheist thinking than the resurrection.