Heart of Midlothian FC Thread

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Very worrying.
 
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Kun Aguero said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26833405


Very worrying.
They might be better off doing what rangers have done though, at least the fans will get control of the club back.
 
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aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26833405


Very worrying.
They might be better off doing what rangers have done though, at least the fans will get control of the club back.

They might not be voted into the league unlike Rangers and even if they are they'll drop to the 4th tier. I feel sympathy for Hearts and any other club that gets into serious debt difficulty.


Except, Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, Dirty Leeds, Stockport Cunty and Rangers.
 
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Kun Aguero said:
aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26833405


Very worrying.
They might be better off doing what rangers have done though, at least the fans will get control of the club back.

They might not be voted into the league unlike Rangers and even if they are they'll drop to the 4th tier. I feel sympathy for Hearts and any other club that gets into serious debt difficulty.


Except, Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, Dirty Leeds, Stockport Cunty and Rangers.
Yes they would, Hearts are the 3rd biggest club in Scotland after Celtic and Rangers, the lower league clubs will vote them in for the same reason they voted in Rangers, increased gates and tv money while they share a division, Rangers/Hibs will also vote for them, Hibs because they need the Derby games, Rangers because there's good relations between the two clubs and Hearts tried to vote them straight back into the SPL, A few other SPL clubs are likely to as well (Celtic, Inverness CT, Motherwell etc)
 
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aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
aguero93:20 said:
They might be better off doing what rangers have done though, at least the fans will get control of the club back.

They might not be voted into the league unlike Rangers and even if they are they'll drop to the 4th tier. I feel sympathy for Hearts and any other club that gets into serious debt difficulty.


Except, Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, Dirty Leeds, Stockport Cunty and Rangers.
Yes they would, Hearts are the 3rd biggest club in Scotland after Celtic and Rangers, the lower league clubs will vote them in for the same reason they voted in Rangers, increased gates and tv money while they share a division, Rangers/Hibs will also vote for them, Hibs because they need the Derby games, Rangers because there's good relations between the two clubs and Hearts tried to vote them straight back into the SPL, A few other SPL clubs are likely to as well (Celtic, Inverness CT, Motherwell etc)

I wouldn't say Rangers and Hearts have good relations or tried to get them back in the SPL, in fact the complete opposite.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20120621/vr-statement_2241384_2818454" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2012 ... 84_2818454</a>

"The opinion of Heart of Midlothian FC in regards to the current situation of Scottish football is clear and robust.

"The football mafia represented by former owners of Rangers FC and Rupert Murdoch's media are to blame for some of the worst problems to hit Scottish football and must not be allowed back in under any circumstances.

"As regards the club itself, we can only express our deepest condolences to its supporters, who have been lied to for so many years.

"It had to happen sooner or later. Victories were achieved not by sporting merits, but through slander, conspiracies amongst players and their poaching via third parties, unfair pressuring of referees, who in themselves are as valuable to the fabric of football as the football stars themselves.

"All of this brought hollow victories and destroyed football. We can also mention the attempts to eliminate Hearts with the help of the tax petitions, through false accusations and threats to revoke the club license. There is a saying about digging a grave for someone: you get it for yourself …

"Without these people football will become cleaner and stronger. Without Murdoch the whole of society will improve, in particular sport and culture.

"Supporters deserve a new beginning and have to accept the fact that their club has to start from the lower league, keeping order in the SPL and without creating unfair competition with other clubs.

"As regards the pitiful state of Scottish football finances, a lot of the blame should be placed at the doors of Murdoch's media. They pay huge sums to English clubs, whilst in Scotland, where football is better supported per capita than anywhere else in Europe and there are more cable or Sky subscribers per capita than in England, clubs receive peanuts for their broadcasting rights.

"At the very least this is discrimination and protectionism for the English football product, which at the same time stunts the development of the game in Scotland, that is regarded as the cradle of football.

"I feel that it is absolutely realistic to create a company that would bring to Scottish clubs at least the same broadcasting income, and even grow it by 50-100% over the next two to three years. This company should be in the hands of Scottish clubs and work with those who want to earn money the honest way, instead of conducting business the Murdoch way.

"They have lived beyond law and all morals, and should now be declared beyond the pale. A society that allows the destruction of integrity in sport, which is a crucial part of Scottish culture, is destroying itself - and all for the benefit of a media aborigine."
 
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Kun Aguero said:
aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
They might not be voted into the league unlike Rangers and even if they are they'll drop to the 4th tier. I feel sympathy for Hearts and any other club that gets into serious debt difficulty.


Except, Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, Dirty Leeds, Stockport Cunty and Rangers.
Yes they would, Hearts are the 3rd biggest club in Scotland after Celtic and Rangers, the lower league clubs will vote them in for the same reason they voted in Rangers, increased gates and tv money while they share a division, Rangers/Hibs will also vote for them, Hibs because they need the Derby games, Rangers because there's good relations between the two clubs and Hearts tried to vote them straight back into the SPL, A few other SPL clubs are likely to as well (Celtic, Inverness CT, Motherwell etc)

I wouldn't say Rangers and Hearts have good relations or tried to get them back in the SPL, in fact the complete opposite.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20120621/vr-statement_2241384_2818454" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2012 ... 84_2818454</a>

"The opinion of Heart of Midlothian FC in regards to the current situation of Scottish football is clear and robust.

"The football mafia represented by former owners of Rangers FC and Rupert Murdoch's media are to blame for some of the worst problems to hit Scottish football and must not be allowed back in under any circumstances.

"As regards the club itself, we can only express our deepest condolences to its supporters, who have been lied to for so many years.

"It had to happen sooner or later. Victories were achieved not by sporting merits, but through slander, conspiracies amongst players and their poaching via third parties, unfair pressuring of referees, who in themselves are as valuable to the fabric of football as the football stars themselves.

"All of this brought hollow victories and destroyed football. We can also mention the attempts to eliminate Hearts with the help of the tax petitions, through false accusations and threats to revoke the club license. There is a saying about digging a grave for someone: you get it for yourself …

"Without these people football will become cleaner and stronger. Without Murdoch the whole of society will improve, in particular sport and culture.

"Supporters deserve a new beginning and have to accept the fact that their club has to start from the lower league, keeping order in the SPL and without creating unfair competition with other clubs.

"As regards the pitiful state of Scottish football finances, a lot of the blame should be placed at the doors of Murdoch's media. They pay huge sums to English clubs, whilst in Scotland, where football is better supported per capita than anywhere else in Europe and there are more cable or Sky subscribers per capita than in England, clubs receive peanuts for their broadcasting rights.

"At the very least this is discrimination and protectionism for the English football product, which at the same time stunts the development of the game in Scotland, that is regarded as the cradle of football.

"I feel that it is absolutely realistic to create a company that would bring to Scottish clubs at least the same broadcasting income, and even grow it by 50-100% over the next two to three years. This company should be in the hands of Scottish clubs and work with those who want to earn money the honest way, instead of conducting business the Murdoch way.

"They have lived beyond law and all morals, and should now be declared beyond the pale. A society that allows the destruction of integrity in sport, which is a crucial part of Scottish culture, is destroying itself - and all for the benefit of a media aborigine."
If you read that, it was an attack on the old Rangers board and a message of condolence to their fans, Rangers and Hearts have very similar fan bases albeit in different cities.
 
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hopefully we will be ok and this is to put pressure on both the administraters and the Lith side of things
the fact that the money is all in place could and should get Hearts a sympathetic hearing .. fingers crossed anyway
 
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A friend of mine is a mad Hibs supporter. At the moment he is living in a world of deep unbridled joy.

Removing the sectarian aspect of this, it would be a little bit like us back in the day, hearing the rags were going into administration. You could guarantee there would be loads of wailing and teeth gnashing from the all-knowing pundits and national media, but the outpouring of joy from the blue side of town would be immense, and the sympathy non-existent.
 

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