Help for my boys with City myths from Liverpool fans

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Tell them the Beatles had their first number one hit four years before Liverpool won a fucking FA Cup!

 

[stonerblue]

Nah cut out all the bullshit - tell your lads to give em a good hard crack and when they go down a solid kick in the bollocks - always worked back in the day when they came to Maine Road

This would be my preferred option as an 11 year old.

 

[Gary James]

Thanks everyone but I’m specifically looking for the post or tweet (was it @Gary James ?) that condensed everything into one.

I’ve posted quite a bit on my website in recent weeks that may help. Some of this is freely available and some just for subscribers. Here’s a few links:

On City’s support (comparing it to MUFC, LFC etc):

Manchester City’s Support: The Facts

Over the last few years there’s been a growing tendency by rival fans to mock the support of Manchester City. It’s an extremely odd thing to do, especially as for most of the period between 1981 and 2011 they talked of the loyalty of City fans. It seems, once the Blues started winning trophies...

gjfootballarchive.com

On LFC & MUFC fixing a game: https://gjfootballarchive.com/2021/01/14/match-fixing-manchester-united-v-liverpool-a-long-read/

On our European heritage (in comparison with LFC etc):

Manchester City’s “European Heritage” – Facts Not Fiction

Most City fans know that the Blues possess a great history but in recent years some of the club’s rivals have tended to play down City’s European heritage suggesting the Blues are relative newcomers to the continent's biggest competitions, so in this article I thought I'd take the opportunity to...

gjfootballarchive.com

There’s other stuff, just search the site for Liverpool and see what comes up. Ta!

 

[Gordyola]

When Shankly was bank rolled by the Moore’s family, with gambling money, he tried to sign Ian StJohn his reaction was that he had never heard of Liverpool, of course a wedge and Shanks’ silver tongue persu him

 

[Shirley]

If our owner is mentioned just ask what have they done with the Yanks Out Dubai In banner.

 

[johncity]

If you look at the History section of this very marvellous fan forum, there is a City timeline which I found quite useful in brushing up on our history. You may be able to pick stuff out of there.

I also have this saved for opportune moments. It was a post on here that I particularly liked and can be customized for other clubs with just a little research.


As for Liverpool - it's important to note that Liverpool's run of success in the 70s and 80s was off the back of major investment from the Moore's family of Littlewood's pools fame. They were a 2nd Division club who invested heavily in the playing squad to kick-start their period of success and then the club was managed very well for the following decade through a series of managers. Similar to City, really.

United went on a spending splurge never before seen in English football after the cash injection of floating on the stock market in the early 90s (equity funding, not commercial revenue) and they broke the British transfer record 3 times in 5 years before Fergurson had won the league. In fact, in 1989, Fergurson took charge of the most expensive team ever assembled in the history of football, this 4 years in to the job and before he'd even won a trophy, remember.

Leeds were a similar sized club to City pre-2008. Leeds had won 3 titles to City's 2, but City had won more FA Cups and more League Cups, and the same amount of European trophies, (although City's was more prestigious). City's attendances have tended to be a touch higher than Leeds'. Prior to the takeover, City's average was 42k and Leeds 26k. Last time both teams were in the top flight at the same time, City's was 2004 - Leeds average attendance was 36k and City's 46k.

When City went down to the 3rd tier, our average attendance was 28k. Leeds average in the 3rd tier was around 24k, with their highest season average being 26k.

So what is it that makes Leeds more "proper" to City in your view? Is it just the lack of success over the last 12 years, or are there some other factors I'm perhaps missing?
Leicester, I assume was some kind of joke, so maybe I'll leave that one out?

So to conclude, I don't blame you for having the ignorances and misconceptions. Unfortunately, the way social media works, negativity seems to spread far more easily than truth. That's not your fault.

great information will keep all that for future

 

[oldius]

The largest home gate in English football history.

 

[oldius]

The future, my scouse friends, the future.

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

My Liverpool supporting scouse aquaintances seem to have gone quiet over recent moments. They know the lack of fans jibe is easily rebuffed so they stick with quality European nights at Anfield stuff. They seem to be pushing back with the 'diving allegation' althoughthey haven't got a leg to stand on with the numerous Salah videos out there but i must admit i am particularly embarrassed by the Sterling penalty against Leipzig where he obviously kicks the pitch and goes down like a sack of spuds. I don't think it was intentional but he should have been honest about that one and had a word with the ref

 

[Manx Blue]

Get them to say City have never killed 39 innocent Italians on Belgian soil.