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[Damocles]

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Brian Glanville is a tiresome and pompous bore.

Another point that this blogger conspicuously fails to appreciate is that a system that spawns the imperative for the extensive marketing of clubs (which he appears so enthusiastic about), makes the intervention of people like Sheikh Mansour inevitable.

Where there is a platform to disseminate a product globally it is unavoidable. I make no comment as to the desirability of such a state of affairs, but it is naive to say the least, to fail to understand that rich and powerful men have always used whatever vehicle is available for financial and strategic ends.

The way modern football is marketed and its global reach, which is seen as a virtue by that blogger, makes its exploitation by global playmakers an inevitable consequence.

It was the same with newspapers before the rise of the internet. Plus ca change.

Are you Sir Humphrey?

 

[dicey89]

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This is proof, if proof were needed, that this clown will never make it as a journo.

He has an opinion that, whilst utterly stupid, is his opinion yet he gets a bit of stick an starts apologising and retracting statement.

Softer than diarrhea.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

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Brian Glanville is a tiresome and pompous bore.

Another point that this blogger conspicuously fails to appreciate is that a system that spawns the imperative for the extensive marketing of clubs (which he appears so enthusiastic about), makes the intervention of people like Sheikh Mansour inevitable.

Where there is a platform to disseminate a product globally it is unavoidable. I make no comment as to the desirability of such a state of affairs, but it is naive to say the least, to fail to understand that rich and powerful men have always used whatever vehicle is available for financial and strategic ends.

The way modern football is marketed and its global reach, which is seen as a virtue by that blogger, makes its exploitation by global playmakers an inevitable consequence.

It was the same with newspapers before the rise of the internet. Plus ca change.

Are you Sir Humphrey?

No, but feel free to call me sir.

 

[sixlashes]

I know its hard to understand(coming from brum) but its the start of a business venture.
you either borrow money to start one or you use your own.
Initially you lay out a lot to get the business started and as the business flourishes you recoup the money and start making a profit(hopefully),if it doesn't work you go bust,....same as any other business in the world,and believe it or not my brummy friend, this has been going on for hundreds of years.

 

[Deleted member 14625]

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The thing is, in ten years time we will be an efficiently run club and will be making a profit. Why can't people understand that to get to that point at the highest level, you have to invest heavily at the very start? We're not trying to finish mid table and get into Europe via Fair Play or the odd Cup win every ten years; we're trying to compete with the likes of Real Madrid (who run their club by spending fortunes too). To do that we have to do what almost all clubs who are at the very top did at the very beginning of their rise to the top; £spend.p! Just becasue United did it 100 years ago, and again 70odd years ago and again twenty five years ago. Arsenal did it (do you hear anyone banging on about how they bought their place in the top league?), Liverpool too. Real Madrid are the epitome of spending to succeed. I'm sure i read that they kidknapped Di Stefano before he was due to sign a new contract with Barcelona and made him sign for Real. Is what we're doing anywhere near the level of scandal of Arsenal or Real?

 

[james1910]

will this knob make any money from this?????????

 

[King Of All Geordies]

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He criticises us for spending money above what we generate from turnover and contrasts it with united.

How the fuck does he think they got to where they are today?.That is precisely what they did in the late eighties and early nineties. It is like some rabid royalist trying to deny that our Royal Family's right to rule didn't originate at the point of a sword several hundred years ago and was instead decreed by god.

It has always faintly amused me when people pontificate about the good of the game and at the same time see a virtue in success being a direct function of shirt sales in Asia, as if that is some meaningful measure of the Corinthian spirit. They equate a club's worth to compete on the pitch with the efficacy of their marketing department. Do they realise how absurd that sounds in sporting terms?

excellent!

Agreed! An excellent retort to the rag bleating..

 

[KrazyKeeper]

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+1

+2

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don't stop there you miss the bit where he slags off tesco for selling milk at at a loss!!

 

[Balti]

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Dear God. What a miserable bastard. Why doesn't he just do us all a favour and end it all if he is so depressed about football?

Another Gooner.

Whisper it not but the Greed Is Good League this season have verged on mediocrity. Both Manchester City and Manchester United, who went head to head until the very last day, for all their relative wealth, were badly shown up in both European competitions. Arsenal, though they were much weakened by the loss all season of Jack Wilshere – as indeed were England – shipped an embarrassing amount of water both in the early and the latter stages of the Premier League. If Manchester City were to take the title, it must surely be said that they bought it, in the process utterly distorting the balance of the competition; still more than Chelsea with Roman Abramovich’s money, had done before them and to a substantial attempt continued to do.

When you have enough money to pay Yaya Toure, the two-goal hero of the triumph at Newcastle, £200,000 a week. When you can enlist the dazzling likes of Sergio Aguero, Carlos Tevez, when he deigns to play, Silva, Barry, Dzeko and even the incorrigible Mario Balotelli, what should you do but win? And City very nearly didn’t do it. Dropping points galore to immensely less wealthy opposition. It has surprised me to see how some correspondents have actually lauded the way City have been able to spend such colossal amounts of Middle Eastern money. One was surprised too by the encomia for Roberto Mancini. What manager with so much money to spend could have failed to build a powerful team?

Embarrassing though it may be, one remembers how Mancini’s strange team selection in Munich, in the European so called Champions Cup, when he dropped an effective centre back to substitute him with one so far from match fitness condemned City to defeat in Munich. As for United, that 6-1 defeat at home by Manchester City was a shocking stain on their season. The fact that Ferguson felt obliged to exhume the 37-year-old Paul Scholes to reinforce his midfield said all too much about his team building programme. And then to throw poor Scholes on to the pitch as a far from match fit substitute, against all expectation, promptly seeing him give away the ball and a goal, was an embarrassment. Even if Scholes, so splendidly resilient, did quickly settle down to play influentially.

True, United did give Arsenal that 8-2 thrashing at Old Trafford, but in mitigation, one should remember that this was an Arsenal team packed with reserves! As for Tottenham and Harry Redknapp, an earlier splendid spell ground almost to a halt in the closing weeks of the season and the 5-1 FA Cup semi final defeat at Wembley by Chelsea was a dreadful humiliation, even if that scandalous Chelsea goal should never have been given by the inept referee, Martin Atkinson.

Yes, Harry was the People’s Choice for manager of England but I think he may have had a lucky escape. Even in retrospect, it is hard to understand how he condemned a plainly struggling centre back in William Gallas to persevere for the whole Wembley match, having been almost contemptuously brushed aside by Didier Drogba, who scored that first Chelsea goal.

Roy Hodgson, meanwhile, is still the object of what the scientist Pavlov might have called alternating stimuli. Varying from contemptible criticisms of his accent, to a despicable attempt by reporters who should have known better to cull negative responses at Bayern Munich from manager Jupp Heynckes and such players as Lahm and Schweinsteiger . The irony being, as it quickly emerged, that Roy could probably have managed the German international team had he not kept his bargain with Blackburn Rovers; destined to sack him anyway. So much for loyalty.

No, I cannot believe that England under Roy, or anybody else for that matter, will do anything of note in the coming Euros. Already team and manager have a ball and chain around the leg with the absence of Wayne Rooney, the sole English striker of real quality, from the first two games. If England get through their qualifying group with the resources they have it would surely be a substantial achievement.

Meanwhile, England fans will doubtless be reassured by an official warning that Ukrainian police could both beat and rob them. Happy days to come

Yep written by 'respected football writer' Glanville.

 

[bluemoondays]

Without the gate crashing by City the PL would have remained the same, the Big 4 continuing to scoff greedily from the trough of the CL whilst all other clubs just got by on PL payments, the odd cup run and, if they were really lucky, a decent Europa run. The Europa run is actually a doble edged sword as competing in Europe for small squads tends to mean their PL performance suffers the next season.

The Big 4 would have continued their plundering of "lesser" clubs stars, having the double benefit of ruining the chances of said clubs of competing for top spots in the PL and also enhancing their own European adventures. Not saying all of the signings work out but it's obvious what they do. Only Arsenal pretty much don't buy from PL teams, see below (only went back to 2003/4 season):

The rags - Rooney, Young, Carrick, Jones, Valencia, Berbatov, VdS, Saha, Smalling, Foster, Tevez?

Chelsea - Glen Johnson, Geremi, Duff, Bridge, J Cole, Parker, SWP, A Cole, Anelka, Sturridge, Torres, Benayoun

Arsenal - Only really Arteta, they just plunder the U18's of France and UK.

Liverpool - Bad example, can't stop laughing as I type this - Henderson, Adam, Carroll, Downing, Shelvey, J Cole, Konchesky, Brad Jones, G Johnson, Keane, Pennant, Bellamy (twice), Crouch, Carson, Kewell and Finnan - OMFG, what a pile of shite and that doesn't include the ones from abroad :)

The above illustrates what the Top 4 were doing, and could afford to do, basically assemble all the best players from the PL in 4 teams (apart from Liverpool........).

This would have pretty much continued forever barring an implosion by one of them (Liverpool) as they were trousering £30m - £50m per season more than the other 18 clubs in the division. The train wreck of Liverpool may have opened the door for Spurs (with no Sheikh for City) but that isn't a guarantee.

Any player that may have wanted to stay was swayed by the bundle of cash on offer, the club wanting to cash in on their asset (often) and the lure of trophies/europe.

Sort of similar to City, except we've done in 2-3 seasons what these other clubs have been doing since the PL started.