Hirving Lozano

rollingnakedinmoney said:
We aren't, but maybe CFG are according to Mexican journalists and Univision, not for the player to play at MCFC but to be loaned out and then sold for profit.
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"CFG" can't sign him in and of itself. It would be Man City who sign him on behalf of CFG if you will, but the money would come from City. I suppose the new Uruguayan team could do it perhaps, but if Blackburn says City haven't signed him and expect him to sign elsewhere, then it definitely isn't happening.

Beyond that, there's not enough money to be made on an initial outlay of €20m anyway. You buy a player for €5m maybe and then hope to turn him into €20m. He certainly couldn't increase his value significantly without playing for City -- there's only been 8 players who have left the Dutch league for more than €20m as is.
 
minnesota blue said:
You do not know that at all.
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Name the loanees that became part of our team then. I can't think of anyone since Joe Hart. It's a clear strategy. Buy young, loan them to gain exposure, sell for a profit. Chelsea pioneered it in this country, we're trying to get our share of that market! It's not stupid to have observed this. We'll see a lot more of it as it's clearly working. Unal gone for was it £10m profit? Mooy will hopefully go for 8 figures once a fee is agreed too. Buy enough of these guys before they have their breakout season and they will pay for a Sanchez/Silva themselves.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Name the loanees that became part of our team then. I can't think of anyone since Joe Hart. It's a clear strategy. Buy young, loan them to gain exposure, sell for a profit. Chelsea pioneered it in this country, we're trying to get our share of that market! It's not stupid to have observed this. We'll see a lot more of it as it's clearly working. Unal gone for was it £10m profit? Mooy will hopefully go for 8 figures once a fee is agreed too. Buy enough of these kids before they have their breakout season and they will pay for a Sanchez/Silva themselves.
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I fully understand the concept. What I'm saying is that a Moreno, Zinchenko, or whoever could turn into a potential worldie and then the sell for profit plan doesn't come to fruition. It's a lesser chance, but you are trying to call out a players future before we have even signed him!

Remember Vickery said Moreno was the better talent than Jesus. My point is the sell for profit option will be there, but it is not a 100% certainty.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
You were saying? If he does end up signing, it's just a logical outcome, based on our clear change of strategy in recent windows.

City Watch‏ @City_Watch 1m1 minute ago
City have no plans to use Lozano in the first team. The strategy is to increase his value and sell for profit. Pure business. [@martindelp]

MCFC Info‏ @MCFClnfo 9m9 minutes ago
Hirving will never play for City. The deal is purely business as CFG look to make a profit in the future. [@martindelp]
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That doesn't really contradict my point, how do you know that all the players we buy for less than £10m, for example will never play for our first team? It is likely that will happen with most of them yes but they're bought with the first team in mind but are expected to develop on loan into first team players, if that doesn't happen they're sold for profit.

Can't just make all the scouted players equal and say the same outcome will happen for all of them without even have watched them.
 
Confirmed: Pachuca sporting director Marco Garcés says there is NO agreement to sell Hirving Lozano to City, but admits PSV are interested.

Garcés “It’s an unfortunate situation where ‘Piojo’ [Miguel Herrera] passed information that wasn’t real.”
 
karen7 said:
Confirmed: Pachuca sporting director Marco Garcés says there is NO agreement to sell Hirving Lozano to City, but admits PSV are interested.

Garcés “It’s an unfortunate situation where ‘Piojo’ [Miguel Herrera] passed information that wasn’t real.”
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Translates to louse in English. What a horrible nickname.
 
As a PSV-fan who is following Lozano for a few years, allow me to give you some background what happened last month before this thread started. It was the chairman of Pachuca who dropped the name of City at the end of april of this year. On television (ESPN) he was quoted: "There are several teams interested. They continue to insist a lot in Holland on a combination with Manchester City , in a joint question.”

Source: https://www.futboltotal.com.mx/2017/04/pachuca-confiesa-chucky-lozano-buscado-manchester-city/

The amount of €20m+ is not correct, this was a number Pachuca released last winter, but was never taken seriously. Lozano is estimated around €12m at this stage, also earlier this month when Celta Vigo was linked to Lozano. The problem could be: Pachuca wants to keep 20% of the transfer rights. PSV will never ever start negotiating for a player around €20m. The deal PSV would like to make with City or another club (Bayern München was also mentioned by our director) has been discussed quite a few times. In this deal they would target players for around €10m our Technical Manager Marcel Brands said.

So City was first named by Pachuca in a deal with a Dutch club. And PSV is still negotiating with Pachuca. Probably City gave PSV a budget to do the negotiations and they will step in when they agreed on the transfer.
 
Much better when he switched to right side. To be honest I think he is not any better than our boys from the academy.
 
Probably will not see him in a City shirt, but still a decent signing none the less and If he makes us some money and secures himself a good move along the line then it is a bonus.
 
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zeven said:
Hes not good enough no way he will sign for us
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There's quite a few players we've signed and then loaned out. The loan system works great for Chelsea and we're doing similar, it can be worth +30m/season when they're sold on but it's a bit callous IMO.
 
Brendan110_0 said:
There's quite a few players we've signed and then loaned out. The loan system works great for Chelsea and we're doing similar, it can be worth +30m/season when they're sold on but it's a bit callous IMO.
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I do not know about it being callous, just think? he could go to Porto or any other Portuguese or Spanish club end up in their reserves with a 50 million buy out fee.
this way he will go to a club where he will play every week adjust to Europe and be set a reasonable buy out fee,
I can see this lad doing a Suarez and ripping the Dutch league to pieces
 
salfordbluetrue said:
this way he will go to a club where he will play every week adjust to Europe and be set a reasonable buy out fee,
I can see this lad doing a Suarez and ripping the Dutch league to pieces
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Lozano is being linked strongly with City again and is indeed ripping up the Dutch league with PSV! Plenty of links in the Netherlands and even Spain with us. 9 from 9 Eredivisie games goals scored and 5 assists. Top scorer for PSV. Scores all sorts of goals including some crackers.
 
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