Homeless people/addiction.

[Mr Kobayashi]

Stop the rambling and accept the message was meant to be about the wider issues not the individual case of a bloke who is dead.

Because he is dead no one will ever know all the facts of the cause, his mental issues or if he fit any diagnosis.

You are missing the point that you went in two footed when the ball was out of play.

People do have agency to change their behaviour but it isn't as simple as a rational choice. If you have no support mechanism and no home it's a lot harder to even have the will power to think about it.

 

[Bill Walker]

Stop the rambling and accept the message was meant to be about the wider issues not the individual case of a bloke who is dead.

Because he is dead no one will ever know all the facts of the cause, his mental issues or if he fit any diagnosis.

You are missing the point that you went in two footed when the ball was out of play.

People do have agency to change their behaviour but it isn't as simple as a rational choice. If you have no support mechanism and no home it's a lot harder to even have the will power to think about it.

I think a great many people turn to alcohol or drugs to combat depression. This in the long run obviously makes things a lot worse. Compassion is the key to helping them.
It's really quite simple.

 

[Marklr]

You made a choice, which was a wrong choice, but it thankfully did not end the same way. For that, everyone can be thankful. But, if intervention had occurred at the right place, and instead of turning to drink you had had the wherewithal to get the intervention, it may have been much less painful.

I didn't really make a CHOICE...it was more gradual than ever getting to that point. I was a social drinker anyway...it just gradually got worse. I started self-medicating with alcohol without realising I was actually doing that. I actually got to see a psychologist at the time but he was a knobhead. Haha. Mental health has come along way since then.
Our brains are wired slightly different, which leads to different thinking and behaviour. What's easy for one can seem impossible for another. Some people don't respond well to counselling or therapy.
My reactions were just more extreme than the average person. We all vary... which is why some advice just doesn't apply to everyone.
Like I say...it's come a long way and i feel there's a LOT more help on offer now.
Cheers bud.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think a great many people turn to alcohol or drugs to combat depression. This in the long run obviously makes things a lot worse. Compassion is the key to helping them.
It's really quite simple.

Can't argue with any of the that. I just meant that there may be a root cause of the depression in this case (for argument sake let's assume it isn't a chemical inbalance) that we'll never know the full facts.


There's no harm in taking the story at face value, which I do. As you say it isn't really compassionate to argue about how a dead man dug his own grave.

 

[PragueBlue]

Why is sorry I was a dickhead such a hard thing to say?

Try it sometime. It might make you feel better.

 

[Marklr]

Arguing on social media is not good for the mental health.

 

[Marklr]

It makes me crave more tea.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I didn't really make a CHOICE...it was more gradual than ever getting to that point. I was a social drinker anyway...it just gradually got worse. I started self-medicating with alcohol without realising I was actually doing that. I actually got to see a psychologist at the time but he was a knobhead. Haha. Mental health has come along way since then.
Our brains are wired slightly different, which leads to different thinking and behaviour. What's easy for one can seem impossible for another. Some people don't respond well to counselling or therapy.
My reactions were just more extreme than the average person. We all vary... which is why some advice just doesn't apply to everyone.
Like I say...it's come a long way and i feel there's a LOT more help on offer now.
Cheers bud.

The semantics are not important. What IS important is that you, and mental health awareness and treatment, have come a long way and are better now!

Long may it continue!

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Arguing on social media is not good for the mental health.

This place coupled with my last dog ‘Boey’ got me through Covid/lockdown.
I am grateful for both in my life.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Try it sometime. It might make you feel better.

Good point. I'm sorry I didn't pick holes in the story about a dead bloke to make myself feel better.

I've had a change of heart though and will make a long post in the morning about how he was a waste of oxygen.