Honestly who is/was better?

[Roger Ringpiece]

Just above average in the Premier League, much better at Kinkladzes level-the championship.

Kinky was the best player i'd ever seen pull a city shirt on,...... that was until merlin arrived !!

ali bernarbia was ten times the player kinky was

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

didnt no it had been posted not been on for a while?

No worries, mate - plenty of other threads get repeated nowadays anyway, so please carry on the debate!!

For what it's worth, I don't like the constant slagging off of Gio by some people whenever a thread like this pops up. He was a shining light in a very bad time for City fans and it is grossly unfair to compare him in that team to Silva in this team. Yes, overall, Silva is probably the better player BUT Kinkladze would also have been fantastic in this team.

I agree, it does my head in as well mate. Silva is one of the best players in the world and is a better player than kinky. I would not argue that for a second. But there is no need to shit on kinkladze to prove a point, I don't get it.

How about a debate between Maradonna and King Colin. Both good players but Maradonna was better. There wouldn't be the need to call Bell shit/overrated bla bla in order to prove a point even further. It would be fucking ridiculous.

He stayed loyal to us through two relegations and was in bits when he left. Some on here have the loyalty of a fucking cat, not by stating another city player is better, but by unnecessary shitting all over one of our legends. Some of the comments about him have been way over the top.

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues ,and not players who are merely passing through.

 

[Blue Blood CTID]

No worries, mate - plenty of other threads get repeated nowadays anyway, so please carry on the debate!!

For what it's worth, I don't like the constant slagging off of Gio by some people whenever a thread like this pops up. He was a shining light in a very bad time for City fans and it is grossly unfair to compare him in that team to Silva in this team. Yes, overall, Silva is probably the better player BUT Kinkladze would also have been fantastic in this team.

I agree, it does my head in as well mate. Silva is one of the best players in the world and is a better player than kinky. I would not argue that for a second. But there is no need to shit on kinkladze to prove a point, I don't get it.

How about a debate between Maradonna and King Colin. Both good players but Maradonna was better. There wouldn't be the need to call Bell shit/overrated bla bla in order to prove a point even further. It would be fucking ridiculous.

He stayed loyal to us through two relegations and was in bits when he left. Some on here have the loyalty of a fucking cat, not by stating another city player is better, but by unnecessary shitting all over one of our legends. Some of the comments about him have been way over the top.

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues.

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

 

[franksinatra]

I agree, it does my head in as well mate. Silva is one of the best players in the world and is a better player than kinky. I would not argue that for a second. But there is no need to shit on kinkladze to prove a point, I don't get it.

How about a debate between Maradonna and King Colin. Both good players but Maradonna was better. There wouldn't be the need to call Bell shit/overrated bla bla in order to prove a point even further. It would be fucking ridiculous.

He stayed loyal to us through two relegations and was in bits when he left. Some on here have the loyalty of a fucking cat, not by stating another city player is better, but by unnecessary shitting all over one of our legends. Some of the comments about him have been way over the top.

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues.

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

With depressing accuracy Blue Blood I mentioned many pages back that these type of threads about Kinkladze usually get some City fans feeling it neccessary to desecrate his memory.

As we both have agreed Silva is the better player but Kinkladze in many city fans mind will always have a special place in the heart. Kinkladze showed us loyalty, he stayed after relegation when even his harsher critics must admit he could have left at that point and advanced his career some where else. But no he showed us loyalty and stayed for another two years.

Niall Quinn was a favourite of mine but he left as soon as we got relegated, Kinkladze stayed, a truly selfless act and for that reason alone withoug considering his abaility he deserves respect from City fans.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I agree, it does my head in as well mate. Silva is one of the best players in the world and is a better player than kinky. I would not argue that for a second. But there is no need to shit on kinkladze to prove a point, I don't get it.

How about a debate between Maradonna and King Colin. Both good players but Maradonna was better. There wouldn't be the need to call Bell shit/overrated bla bla in order to prove a point even further. It would be fucking ridiculous.

He stayed loyal to us through two relegations and was in bits when he left. Some on here have the loyalty of a fucking cat, not by stating another city player is better, but by unnecessary shitting all over one of our legends. Some of the comments about him have been way over the top.

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues.

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

I hardly think you're in a positon to pontificate about people having their nerves touched.

I assume that not slagging Kinkladze off makes you think you are a bigger blue than those that do.

As for trying to justify slagging Kinkladze off, I believe I have made balanced arguments about the relative merits of him and Silva on this thread, which I feel compelled to point out to you is the point of the thread. If you feel that any of those comments constitute 'slagging off' then I suggest you spend less time on threads which involve honest and robust debate about players which we, as fans, are entitled to express our opinions about.

I believe there's a 'Muffin v Barm' thread in Off Topic which might be more suited to your delicate disposition.

 

[Blue Blood CTID]

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues.

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

I hardly think you're in a positon to pontificate about people having their nerves touched.

I assume that not slagging Kinkladze off makes you think you are a bigger blue than those that do.

As for trying to justify slagging Kinkladze off, I believe I have made balanced arguments about the relative merits of him and Silva on this thread, which I feel compelled to point out to you is the point of the thread. If you feel that any of those comments constitute 'slagging off' then I suggest you spend less time on threads which involve honest and robust debate about players which we, as fans, are entitled to express our opinions about.

I believe there's a 'Muffin v Barm' thread in Off Topic which might be more suited to your delicate disposition..

Pontificate. Compelled. Constitute. Robust debate. Delicate Disposition. Be my friend mate, you're fucking amazing.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

I hardly think you're in a positon to pontificate about people having their nerves touched.

I assume that not slagging Kinkladze off makes you think you are a bigger blue than those that do.

As for trying to justify slagging Kinkladze off, I believe I have made balanced arguments about the relative merits of him and Silva on this thread, which I feel compelled to point out to you is the point of the thread. If you feel that any of those comments constitute 'slagging off' then I suggest you spend less time on threads which involve honest and robust debate about players which we, as fans, are entitled to express our opinions about.

I believe there's a 'Muffin v Barm' thread in Off Topic which might be more suited to your delicate disposition..

Pontificate. Compelled. Constitute. Robust debate. Delicate Disposition. Be my friend mate, you're fucking amazing.

I'm sorry if my choice of words (which is far from unusual, I assure you) seems to have overwhelmed you.

I will try to bear that in mind in future.

In the meantime whilst I'm sure us being friends has its appeal, I don't believe that you would ever consider me to be a big enough blue for it to ever work, long term.

 

[Bilboblue]

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues.

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

With depressing accuracy Blue Blood I mentioned many pages back that these type of threads about Kinkladze usually get some City fans feeling it neccessary to desecrate his memory.

As we both have agreed Silva is the better player but Kinkladze in many city fans mind will always have a special place in the heart. Kinkladze showed us loyalty, he stayed after relegation when even his harsher critics must admit he could have left at that point and advanced his career some where else. But no he showed us loyalty and stayed for another two years.

Niall Quinn was a favourite of mine but he left as soon as we got relegated, Kinkladze stayed, a truly selfless act and for that reason alone withoug considering his abaility he deserves respect from City fans.

That's my fault, I spoke to him outside the main stand as he was getting into his BRG LEFT hand drive Jag, and told him he couldn't leave, he was all we had left!!

Great man and a great City player.

As for the person making the comparison with Ali B..... ffs that's laughable.
Maybe if we had Ali B a couple of seasons earlier yes, he was mesmeric.

David Silva IS better than Gio but Gio will ALWAYS have a special place in City fans hearts (those old enough to have seen him play that is).

 

[Blue Blood CTID]

It is not without irony that the many of the fans that you claim have the 'loyalty of a fucking cat' were continuing to watch their club whilst it sank to new depths the season after Kinkladze left, while he plied his trade on foreign shores.

Perhaps it is you that displays the loyalty of a cat where it really matters, to fellow blues.

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

With depressing accuracy Blue Blood I mentioned many pages back that these type of threads about Kinkladze usually get some City fans feeling it neccessary to desecrate his memory.

As we both have agreed Silva is the better player but Kinkladze in many city fans mind will always have a special place in the heart. Kinkladze showed us loyalty, he stayed after relegation when even his harsher critics must admit he could have left at that point and advanced his career some where else. But no he showed us loyalty and stayed for another two years.

Niall Quinn was a favourite of mine but he left as soon as we got relegated, Kinkladze stayed, a truly selfless act and for that reason alone withoug considering his abaility he deserves respect from City fans.

It's not too much to ask is it Frank? You could explain it to me from now until the end of time, and I would just never understand the obsession with bashing Kinkladze.<br /><br />-- Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:23 pm --<br /><br />

I hardly think you're in a positon to pontificate about people having their nerves touched.

I assume that not slagging Kinkladze off makes you think you are a bigger blue than those that do.

As for trying to justify slagging Kinkladze off, I believe I have made balanced arguments about the relative merits of him and Silva on this thread, which I feel compelled to point out to you is the point of the thread. If you feel that any of those comments constitute 'slagging off' then I suggest you spend less time on threads which involve honest and robust debate about players which we, as fans, are entitled to express our opinions about.

I believe there's a 'Muffin v Barm' thread in Off Topic which might be more suited to your delicate disposition..

Pontificate. Compelled. Constitute. Robust debate. Delicate Disposition. Be my friend mate, you're fucking amazing.

I'm sorry if my choice of words (which is far from unusual, I assure you) seems to have overwhelmed you.

I will try to bear that in mind in future.

In the meantime whilst I'm sure us being friends has its appeal, I don't believe that you would ever consider me to be a big enough blue for it to ever work, long term.

A legend in you're own mind.

 

[franksinatra]

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

With depressing accuracy Blue Blood I mentioned many pages back that these type of threads about Kinkladze usually get some City fans feeling it neccessary to desecrate his memory.

As we both have agreed Silva is the better player but Kinkladze in many city fans mind will always have a special place in the heart. Kinkladze showed us loyalty, he stayed after relegation when even his harsher critics must admit he could have left at that point and advanced his career some where else. But no he showed us loyalty and stayed for another two years.

Niall Quinn was a favourite of mine but he left as soon as we got relegated, Kinkladze stayed, a truly selfless act and for that reason alone withoug considering his abaility he deserves respect from City fans.

That's my fault, I spoke to him outside the main stand as he was getting into his BRG LEFT hand drive Jag, and told him he couldn't leave, he was all we had left!!

Great man and a great City player.

As for the person making the comparison with Ali B..... ffs that's laughable.
Maybe if we had Ali B a couple of seasons earlier yes, he was mesmeric.

David Silva IS better than Gio but Gio will ALWAYS have a special place in City fans hearts (those old enough to have seen him play that is).

Mine also mate, I remember lying in front of his car after the Reading game, pleading with him to stay. He was with an absoloute stunner and you could see how touched he was that so many people had waited to beg him to stay.

So grateful he didnt run me over, true city legend<br /><br />-- Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:34 pm --<br /><br />

I've touched a nerve there mate haven't I?

I was one of those fans you speak of. I don't slag Kinkladze or try and justify doing so.

With depressing accuracy Blue Blood I mentioned many pages back that these type of threads about Kinkladze usually get some City fans feeling it neccessary to desecrate his memory.

As we both have agreed Silva is the better player but Kinkladze in many city fans mind will always have a special place in the heart. Kinkladze showed us loyalty, he stayed after relegation when even his harsher critics must admit he could have left at that point and advanced his career some where else. But no he showed us loyalty and stayed for another two years.

Niall Quinn was a favourite of mine but he left as soon as we got relegated, Kinkladze stayed, a truly selfless act and for that reason alone withoug considering his abaility he deserves respect from City fans.

It's not too much to ask is it Frank? You could explain it to me from now until the end of time, and I would just never understand the obsession with bashing Kinkladze.

-- Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:23 pm --

Pontificate. Compelled. Constitute. Robust debate. Delicate Disposition. Be my friend mate, you're fucking amazing.

I'm sorry if my choice of words (which is far from unusual, I assure you) seems to have overwhelmed you.

I will try to bear that in mind in future.

In the meantime whilst I'm sure us being friends has its appeal, I don't believe that you would ever consider me to be a big enough blue for it to ever work, long term.

A legend in you're own mind.

Apparently the Southampton goal was due to not one player making a tackle and Beasant falling to the floor before Kinkladze shot. Nothing to do with Kinkladzes, touch, close control , acceleration. The bitterness of some to one of our own is just incredible.