How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

I watched an interview recently with a musician. He plays in the band King Crimson. It's not a band I followed but I had heard of them and, well, he explained just how complicated and expensive it is these days to tour in Europe.

Every member of the tour party had to have a work visa to enter each country, and it cost between £100 and £200 per visa depending on which country they were entering, so it was costing the band several thousand pounds every time they crossed a border.

The visas had to be applied for at each UK embassy of the countries they were visiting so their passports could be stamped, so it took months for all the passports to receive the required stamp, as the passports could only be at one embassy at a time.

As if that was not enough, he added they had a van with all the merchandise on board, T-shirts and so on. They had to pay VAT in full on all the merchandise entering the country, and if they sold 10%, they could then reclaim 90% of the VAT they had paid when they left, but the same scenario happened when entering the next country.

It's not quite the same as traveling from England to Wales, but we had it like that for a while.<iframe width="914" height="514" src="" title="Rockstar describes ‘unforeseen failing&#39; of post-Brexit touring difficulties | LBC" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But at leat all of the visas were now being stamped in a black passport. I saw that interview and you can only imagine what it must be like to do a European tour.

Unfortunately I don't think much can be done to improve the situation as the usual press suspects will claim that democracy is being over turned.
 
When you put it like that I’m struggling to know why anyone voted for Brexit or why the government allowed a referendum in the first instance. There must be some benefits the NHS, £50 million, intact borders (only there is more Legal immigration)
Anyone joining the March on Brexit tomorrow.?
I wasn’t aware there was a march and tbh you can march until your feet drop off and it will make no difference.
 
Was just looking at bookmarks and found this one from our old bloviating friend.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/posts/12680169/
Bless

But frankly I will be glad to own it all

Genuine question: Will you be rushing onto some appropriate thread in the future - should we be witnessing the inevitable implosion of the EU - to say something along the lines of:

"Where the fuck are MCFC1632 and all those others that had the resolve to see where this federal shit was going and the guts to vote accordingly?

I just want to say a big fucking thank you

I remember at the time what an obnoxious fucker I was - giving out shit left right and centre - but, hey, you know what they say about hindsight.....

Anyway, on behalf of by children and their future generations - I raise a glass….."


Because.….

If in, say 5 years time, this is seen as a utter fuck up and that Leaving has done (net) major damage to the UK - I will indeed be on here to man up (@west didsblue please take note) and accept that I was utterly wrong and be campaigning to re-join

Will you? Can I bookmark such a post?
Anyway, I know it’s only four and a half years but that’s near enough.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/17/economy/brexit-stifling-britain-trade-europe

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22y0jvd4do.amp

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...onomic-and-financial-damage-looks-inescapable

Are you ready to “man up” @Oldham Exile or do we have to wait till May next year?
 
Was just looking at bookmarks and found this one from our old bloviating friend.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/posts/12680169/

Anyway, I know it’s only four and a half years but that’s near enough.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/17/economy/brexit-stifling-britain-trade-europe

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22y0jvd4do.amp

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...onomic-and-financial-damage-looks-inescapable

Are you ready to “man up” @Oldham Exile or do we have to wait till May next year?
The fucking state of some of the posts on that thread.
 
In August, I was offered a job lecturing at Leipzig University. I worked there before, from 2006-2014 before moving to Innsbruck University in Austria. I've accepted the job offer in Leipzig and was supposed to start on the 1st of October. Of course, Brexit happened while I was away from Germany, so the immigration authorities there have decided that I'm now from a third country and have to apply for a visa even though I have one in Austria. They won't accept the Austrian one, or any of my previous work and paid taxes in Germany, so my application has been running for 6 weeks now. I have a German wife, and my kids have German passports but, because my passport is British, I can't start work until I get a visa. In order to apply for a visa, I have had to spend weeks sending documents to Germany and even had to go there last week to register with the authorities. I'm now currently not being paid, and I'm getting angrier by the day at this stupid Brexit vote. I've lived my whole life in the EU, and I voted against Brexit. Now I'm being punished for something a bunch of bigoted, racist Little Englanders voted for. I'll be applying for German citizenship as soon as I can, as I want nothing more to do with the UK (apart from City, of course). Thanks a lot, Brexiteers!!!
 
My wife is eligible for a German passport. If we were younger, I'd be seriously tempted to emigrate there. The average German family is 20% better off than the average British family. Yet according to the beetroot-face brigade, the German economy is failing and we are doing better.

(That's like saying I can almost certainly - in percentage terms - improve my time over 100 metres at a greater rate than the World Champion sprinter!)
 

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