How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

RobMCFC said:
Not for the average Brit - but if you want to study or work abroad, it’s a whole lot harder.

We spent £800 last year on visa/medical/Hague Apostille documentation just so my daughter could study for 9 months in Madrid.

In the end, she didn’t get to go because despite us following the Spanish consulate instructions to the letter, they rejected one of our documents. At this point we contacted her uni and they agreed she could proceed to final final year.

The wait times for appointments at Embassies and Consulates were months. Young people have been sold down the river by Brexit.
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And oldies as well.

Going to Europe for a holiday is one thing. Attempting to travel for work or education is a totally different ball game
 
Phil1 said:
Haha! Kind of sums it up that all those things mentioned are worth it to the average leave numpty as long as you stop those pesky foreigners coming and stealing your jobs!
Rule Brittania and all that jazz..
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There were so many polls in the lead up to Brexit, but one stood out: that the majority of UKIP voters would be willing to sacrifice their own living standards to reduce immigration. Not all Brexit voters etc etc, but I remember thinking at the time "ah, that's it, that's the animating force here". That feels like where we are currently at.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Aye, I think everyone is coming to realize that Brexit isn't the end of the world, it was never going to be, but it does make everything a bit shitter, products a bit more expensive, the paperwork a bit more burdensome, the queues a bit longer, the opportunities not quite as good as what we already had.
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The number of people who cannot comprehend the profound implications of a 4% drop in GDP is still quite staggering. That's the most damaging aspect of Brexit by far, especially given the worldwide economic climate, yet it still gets overlooked or brushed over.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
There were so many polls in the lead up to Brexit, but one stood out: that the majority of UKIP voters would be willing to sacrifice their own living standards to reduce immigration. Not all Brexit voters etc etc, but I remember thinking at the time "ah, that's it, that's the animating force here". That feels like where we are currently at.
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Yep - handily that, covid and economic mis-management are going to bring them the reduction in living standards (and like as not life expectancy as they two go hand in hand ) that they voted for. The irony? The immigrants they so fear are coming across the channel in record numbers whilst the number of visa's handed to migrants from outside the EU continues to rise.........
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The number of people who cannot comprehend the profound implications of a 4% drop in GDP is still quite staggering. That's the most damaging aspect of Brexit by far, especially given the worldwide economic climate, yet it still gets overlooked or brushed over.
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I was just about to say, whilst BB is right in the sense of those being the most tangible and attributable effects of Brexit, it's the impact in the mid to long term of our economy contracting that's going to be felt sharpest. We're already seeing it, but at the moment pro-Brexit commentators are able to point to Covid/Ukraine to cloud things. That won't last forever tho.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The number of people who cannot comprehend the profound implications of a 4% drop in GDP is still quite staggering. That's the most damaging aspect of Brexit by far, especially given the worldwide economic climate, yet it still gets overlooked or brushed over.
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I actually heard an uncle dickhead family friend say that 4% isn't that big a number. It's wild really.
 
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