How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

ere's that poll by the way - the original Tweet seems to have been deleted for some reason



And remember that was GBN viewers this is the wider country

 
bluethrunthru said:
ere's that poll by the way - the original Tweet seems to have been deleted for some reason



And remember that was GBN viewers this is the wider country

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This is remarkable! One can only assume they thought their gammon viewers would buck the trend of all the other polls that have Brexit as popular as diarrhea, but no, seems even Pissed Off of Tunbridge Wells thinks Brexit is a crock.
 
The perfect fumble said:
This is remarkable! One can only assume they thought their gammon viewers would buck the trend of all the other polls that have Brexit as popular as diarrhea, but no, seems even Pissed Off of Tunbridge Wells thinks Brexit is a crock.
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Food prices going up, interest rates going up making people worried about being able to keep a roof over their heads, taxes going up to fix the black while in government spending. No person in the country can escape what’s being inflicted on us.
 
What many people still seem to underplay is the effect that the infamous red bus had. That 'promise' convinced many that '350 million' extra would go into the NHS. The NHS was already creaking and many of those who voted NO were increasingly reliant on its services, either for themselves or for their aging and ailing relatives. They can now see that the exact opposite has happened. The NHS has been denuded of the staff it so desperately needs (many who were from the EU) and that there just isn't the 'promised' money to keep the service ticking over never mind improve it.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Food prices going up, interest rates going up making people worried about being able to keep a roof over their heads, taxes going up to fix the black while in government spending. No person in the country can escape what’s being inflicted on us.
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True, but the Right have given them Covid, Putin, Sunak and Hunt as the cause of all our woes.

The fruit loops at GB New even calls our predicament the "lock down recession".

Seems a fair chunk of their viewers aren't buying it.
 
Gabriel said:
What many people still seem to underplay is the effect that the infamous red bus had. That 'promise' convinced many that '350 million' extra would go into the NHS. The NHS was already creaking and many of those who voted NO were increasingly reliant on its services, either for themselves or for their aging and ailing relatives. They can now see that the exact opposite has happened. The NHS has been denuded of the staff it so desperately needs (many who were from the EU) and that there just isn't the 'promised' money to keep the service ticking over never mind improve it.
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Any **** who fell for that shit written on the side of the bus is completely beyond help.
 
The perfect fumble said:
This is remarkable! One can only assume they thought their gammon viewers would buck the trend of all the other polls that have Brexit as popular as diarrhea, but no, seems even Pissed Off of Tunbridge Wells thinks Brexit is a crock.
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I wonder how much is the gammons simply going along the ‘this is not the brexit I voted for’ route, who still think it is a fundamental benefit, but think it is just not being implemented properly.
They have no idea I suppose, that the brexit they thought they voted for never existed.
Bitterness and recriminations all round.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Any **** who fell for that shit written on the side of the bus is completely beyond help.
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The bus had bigger connotations than just the huge amounts into the NHS, it also said to people that the EU was taking extortionate amounts of money out of their pockets. If the NHS could get that much, how much more could we get back.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
I wonder how much is the gammons simply going along the ‘this is not the brexit I voted for’ route, who still think it is a fundamental benefit, but think it is just not being implemented properly.
They have no idea I suppose, that the brexit they thought they voted for never existed.
Bitterness and recriminations all round.
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You might have a point.

Seems "Brexit Betrayed" is the last watering hole before oblivion for Farage, the ERG, Johnson and the departed lettuce.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Any **** who fell for that shit written on the side of the bus is completely beyond help.
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I agree. However, the simplicity of its message and its effect on many is beyond doubt. For very many, frictionless trade and freedom of movement were meaningless and far removed from their everyday lives. The NHS binds everyone. Labour could make hay by connecting the ‘promise’ on that bus to the current plight of the NHS, yet it remains (no pun intended) terrified of appearing the slightest bit anti-Brexit, a position that is increasingly akin to being pro self-harm.
 
lust overlord said:
There were certainly some left leaning Brexit voters.
More likely imo,a larger part of the Brexit vote was made up of people who don't do News or current affairs channels.
The latter is based on people I worked with,who tended to get their "news" off social media or from popular newspapers.
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This, in a nutshell, is the patronising drivel that helped ensure Leave won.
 
Gabriel said:
Actually, Vic, on that point I’m paraphrasing what a Tory MP said on the BBC this week. I know that they want to continue to feed the myth that Labour is winning seats with hordes of fictitious British-Asian voters, and I also know that they suspect younger voters will be deterred if it involves proving their identity, but I also know that plenty will be waived through who just point at the list and say that’s me!
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There's your problem. Going off what a Tory MP said, on TV, in Parliament, face to face... Just don't believe them. It's easy, really.
 
hedkandi said:
Intresting poll on GB News...the far right gammon channel. Viewers would not vote for Brexit so does this suggest that it was Left leaning voters voted for Brexit all along?

This morning on GB News Breakfast, we're asking... If given the chance again would you vote FOR or AGAINST Brexit? Freeview 236, Sky 515, Virgin 604 GB News YouTube: https://bit.ly/3vAYaw0

  • FOR
    45%

  • AGAINST
    55%
18,700 votes·Final results
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It’s the only conclusion you can draw… seemingly
 
SilverFox2 said:
I wonder why non EU Llegislation has been neglected until now?
Has it been deliberately left alone for whatever reason or maybe obscured by Civil Servants as something to leave alone?
Whilst finance usually rules everything I fear there is much more waiting ro bite us in our much more changed world.
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44 Acts passed this year so far - the most since 2006 - and maybe half a dozen anything to do with the EU.

Legislation.gov.uk

www.legislation.gov.uk www.legislation.gov.uk
 
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